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qJai Aug 5, 2009 09:03 AM

rrm timing control box
 
hey guys, im started to get real interested in the timing control box.

just wondering if the guys in toronto can help me with a few questions about it.

wanted to know how much the product came to at te door after shipping, taxes, duties, etc. (which postal service does rrm use?)

also wanted to know what kinda gains have been experienced, was there more gains when on a modded car vs a stock?

and, is it worth it =p. thanks guys cant wait for ur inputs.

evo_soul Aug 5, 2009 09:07 AM

does it work, yes... just go easy for the few days so you car can get use to it.

RRM ships with UPS. idealy USPS would be better because the broker charge is always 5$, then you just pay 13% tax on what ever the value is. in some cases the gov doesnt even bother.

hope that helps

qJai Aug 5, 2009 09:09 AM

so ups brokerage fee is $5?

xed32 Aug 5, 2009 12:09 PM

USPS is $5, UPS is much more...always...man i hate UPS....

Infamous_pt4 Aug 5, 2009 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by qJai (Post 7360128)
hey guys, im started to get real interested in the timing control box.

just wondering if the guys in toronto can help me with a few questions about it.

wanted to know how much the product came to at te door after shipping, taxes, duties, etc. (which postal service does rrm use?)

also wanted to know what kinda gains have been experienced, was there more gains when on a modded car vs a stock?

and, is it worth it =p. thanks guys cant wait for ur inputs.

yes it works , yes its worth the money , most noticable mod so far , to my door all said n done was 320 shipped once u convert the dollar and ups at the door was 50 $ so your looking around 370 all in depending on what the cdn $ is at , another thing to note is that rrm cuts the price in half when shipping to canada on the slip so when it hits customs you dont pay as much as you would if they wrote down the full price

qJai Aug 5, 2009 05:18 PM

hmmm 370 for noticable gain sounds pretty good, care to elaborate on the noticability? like when is it noticable, by how much? n if it gets better with mods like a piggyback or not?

Gemms Aug 5, 2009 06:36 PM

^+1

Does anyone have this for the 2.4L? What does RRM state in their numbers?

Infamous_pt4 Aug 5, 2009 08:40 PM

^^ rrm on their dyno chart thats on their website sayd 8 hp and 5 tq i think ,

and by noticable i mean the car pulls better and the throttle feels better at lower rpm's , if you have a realistic expectation of what your getting you wont be disappointed , no one that i know that has this part has had a bad thing to say about it

i havnt tried it in stock form so i dunno how it would feel from stock to everything i have now , but they say it compliments other mods nicely , id like to try it with the piggy back but no plans for the piggy

qJai Aug 5, 2009 10:07 PM

lol nice, what kinda mods do you have currently? just so i can get an idea of where i would stand if i got it.

rontam90 Aug 5, 2009 11:47 PM

if you look at the dyno chart provided by RRM, the max HP to the wheels, 8whp, comes in relatively late at 6000rpm. there doesnt seem to be much power gains early on in the powerband. the torque band does seem to improve starting from mid range which would be beneficial in a daily driving situation, you would probably notice better acceleration mid range.

for the price i would say its a good purchase, plus its easily installed/uninstalled so i'm sure you can sell it easily in the future once you dont need it.

qJai Aug 6, 2009 10:18 AM

i read on another thread that it works better with 91 octane compared to 89... anyone wana elaborate on what they might have meant, or experienced that same feeling?

infamous, what kinda performance mods do you have along with the timin control module?

Infamous_pt4 Aug 6, 2009 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by qJai (Post 7364819)
i read on another thread that it works better with 91 octane compared to 89... anyone wana elaborate on what they might have meant, or experienced that same feeling?

infamous, what kinda performance mods do you have along with the timin control module?

i have a sri , crank pulley , ab exhaust and thats it i think lol , i ran 91 from the start so i dunno if theres a difference from 89 to 91

qJai Aug 6, 2009 06:05 PM

true, yea i run 91 also...

qJai Aug 21, 2009 02:34 PM

hey. just wondering, do u need to disconnect your battery for the ecu to recognize the box? or shud it be felt right when it goes on.

Infamous_pt4 Aug 21, 2009 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by qJai (Post 7423283)
hey. just wondering, do u need to disconnect your battery for the ecu to recognize the box? or shud it be felt right when it goes on.

dont have to diconnect anything , but you wont get full gains for a few days cuz of how advanced the mivec system is

aj_pierce Aug 21, 2009 03:51 PM

dude from 89 to 91 not a huge difference still some, The timing advance with out a doubt doesn't like the 87 that's for sure, when I was running the 87 (don't lecture me) the car would sputter at idle. If you throw 94 That's the best. But the car just drinks that **** up.

qJai Aug 21, 2009 09:16 PM

well im running 91, and have been for like at least 3-4months... but since i installed the exhaust and timing control on the same day... not sure if i can feel anything.... but i guess i gotta play with it, maybe ill try to take it off in like 2 days n feel if theres any loss....

but another question i have is when u take it off, does it take a fwe days to feel the loss? or is it instant?

aj_pierce Aug 22, 2009 03:25 AM

I took it off during the morning, had my car parked for 8 hours then drove..it didn't feel the same.

mikron15 Aug 22, 2009 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by aj_pierce (Post 7423495)
dude from 89 to 91 not a huge difference still some, The timing advance with out a doubt doesn't like the 87 that's for sure, when I was running the 87 (don't lecture me) the car would sputter at idle. If you throw 94 That's the best. But the car just drinks that **** up.

Don't bother with 89 octane, here in the GTA atleast, 89 octane is a mixture of 3 parts of 87oct + 2 parts of 91oct, instead of a 50-50 mix. I know for sure PetroCanada uses the 3:2 ratio.

qJai Aug 22, 2009 11:56 PM

damn, so that means when i take it to the dyno, i cant unplug it and ask for another run within the same time period =(

Hydrolikz Aug 23, 2009 07:47 AM

You can, it's been done before and shown a loss in HP

qJai Aug 23, 2009 02:20 PM

really.... anyone post results? never found any concrete info on this product... so seeing them would be great... kinda wana know how mcuh the timing is changed by and where and the differences for specifically our cars (2.0l mainly) with or without it.... (since the dyno chart on rrm shows for eclipse... and better to see results from someone whos not trying to push the product if u know what i mean =p)


hopefully ill be doing a dyno this wednesday... n hopefully they'll let me.

Hydrolikz Aug 23, 2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by qJai (Post 7428552)
really.... anyone post results?

Here ya go. :thumbup:

http://www.houstonlancers.com/photos...e.php?pos=-181

http://www.houstonlancers.com/photos...e.php?pos=-177

qJai Aug 23, 2009 08:18 PM

yea i wsa wondering how itll look o a 2.0 though. since i got the 08 gts and the dyno is for the 2.4 09 gts

Hydrolikz Aug 23, 2009 11:15 PM

Well I haven't seen one for it yet, but I don't see why it would work for the 2.4 and not the 2L

BTW: I responded to you over in the tune thread :thumbup:

qJai Aug 23, 2009 11:18 PM

not saying it wont work... just saying i want to know what kinda gains it would be for a 2.0....

mikron15 Aug 24, 2009 06:01 AM

I still think its better to save up some more and get the WORKS P1 flash.. I'm not too happy so far after reading other threads of the timing module.

qJai Aug 24, 2009 08:38 AM

why rnt u happy about it?

qJai Aug 24, 2009 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Hydrolikz (Post 7429890)
Well I haven't seen one for it yet, but I don't see why it would work for the 2.4 and not the 2L

BTW: I responded to you over in the tune thread :thumbup:



k ill go look at that thread later tnoight lol


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