Competition clutch bad clutch kits (cheap quality)
#16
OP,
I understand you're angry, but I think you should go back and try to understand what letsgetthisdone has posted. The way your engine is behaving could be the reason why the flywheel bolts keep loosening up. Even with different clutches and cranks, it could still be doing the same thing. Think engine block bores and line bore. The fact that it shows up on the CC clutch kit doesn't mean that the company is bad because many people are running it with no problems.
On a side note, it's never a good idea to list out someones first and last names on a forum. You could accidentally put them and their families in danger and that's not considerate at all given today's climate.
I understand you're angry, but I think you should go back and try to understand what letsgetthisdone has posted. The way your engine is behaving could be the reason why the flywheel bolts keep loosening up. Even with different clutches and cranks, it could still be doing the same thing. Think engine block bores and line bore. The fact that it shows up on the CC clutch kit doesn't mean that the company is bad because many people are running it with no problems.
On a side note, it's never a good idea to list out someones first and last names on a forum. You could accidentally put them and their families in danger and that's not considerate at all given today's climate.
How would he or his family be in danger ?? What are you talking about !!! If there is something with my engine as you guys are saying why didn’t it happen while I dynoed the car and raced it with the excedy clutch just to figure out is it from this or that , I tried everything changed and reboltef and torque everything to figure it out then i was 110% sure it was from the clutch kit ?!?!
#17
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How would he or his family be in danger ?? What are you talking about !!! If there is something with my engine as you guys are saying why didn’t it happen while I dynoed the car and raced it with the excedy clutch just to figure out is it from this or that , I tried everything changed and reboltef and torque everything to figure it out then i was 110% sure it was from the clutch kit ?!?!
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The Exedy clutch working means that it can be better at hiding the issue. It doesn't mean the issue is gone with the exedy clutch installed. Think of it this way, the material hardness and shape of the CC flywheel and exedy flywheel might be different, but both tested within the TYPICAL thresholds to be reliable for the evo under their rated torque. If your car is out of the typical functioning threshold for harmonic vibration for example, you can destroy clutches that would have worked otherwise.
I'm not defending CC, but I am asking you to explore all possibilities.
#18
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*has problem with engine*
*throws parts at engine*
*problem persists*
*blames part manufacturer*
That's the summary of this thread.
Lots of vendors and companies can be a pain in the *** to communicate with nowadays, it's a sad fact. Sucks you had that trouble but as already said OP, bolt holes don't enlarge themselves if things are torqued properly. With that said I've never once seen flywheel bolts back out with loctite on them, sure doesn't look like loctite on those threads in your pics and the stock bolts are torque to yield so they're not to be reused. If your harmonic balancer was damaged it sounds more like an internal issue with the engine to me. Also, don't complain about being out money for labor, it's not anyone elses' fault that you can't do the work yourself. Losing money is all part of modifying a car man, deal with it or don't do it.
PS learn how to use a period. Jesus that OP is an eyesore.
*throws parts at engine*
*problem persists*
*blames part manufacturer*
That's the summary of this thread.
Lots of vendors and companies can be a pain in the *** to communicate with nowadays, it's a sad fact. Sucks you had that trouble but as already said OP, bolt holes don't enlarge themselves if things are torqued properly. With that said I've never once seen flywheel bolts back out with loctite on them, sure doesn't look like loctite on those threads in your pics and the stock bolts are torque to yield so they're not to be reused. If your harmonic balancer was damaged it sounds more like an internal issue with the engine to me. Also, don't complain about being out money for labor, it's not anyone elses' fault that you can't do the work yourself. Losing money is all part of modifying a car man, deal with it or don't do it.
PS learn how to use a period. Jesus that OP is an eyesore.
#19
*has problem with engine*
*throws parts at engine*
*problem persists*
*blames part manufacturer*
That's the summary of this thread.
Lots of vendors and companies can be a pain in the *** to communicate with nowadays, it's a sad fact. Sucks you had that trouble but as already said OP, bolt holes don't enlarge themselves if things are torqued properly. With that said I've never once seen flywheel bolts back out with loctite on them, sure doesn't look like loctite on those threads in your pics and the stock bolts are torque to yield so they're not to be reused. If your harmonic balancer was damaged it sounds more like an internal issue with the engine to me. Also, don't complain about being out money for labor, it's not anyone elses' fault that you can't do the work yourself. Losing money is all part of modifying a car man, deal with it or don't do it.
PS learn how to use a period. Jesus that OP is an eyesore.
*throws parts at engine*
*problem persists*
*blames part manufacturer*
That's the summary of this thread.
Lots of vendors and companies can be a pain in the *** to communicate with nowadays, it's a sad fact. Sucks you had that trouble but as already said OP, bolt holes don't enlarge themselves if things are torqued properly. With that said I've never once seen flywheel bolts back out with loctite on them, sure doesn't look like loctite on those threads in your pics and the stock bolts are torque to yield so they're not to be reused. If your harmonic balancer was damaged it sounds more like an internal issue with the engine to me. Also, don't complain about being out money for labor, it's not anyone elses' fault that you can't do the work yourself. Losing money is all part of modifying a car man, deal with it or don't do it.
PS learn how to use a period. Jesus that OP is an eyesore.
I guess you didn’t read the whole post talking about stock bolts and don’t modify if you can’t modify a car , if you have a solution or an idea talk about it other than that shhhh skip the thread .
#21
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Heres some more proof comp sucks and they won't even waranty their ****ty parts when it fails. You can clearly see how much life is left on the disc I have an Evo 9 I drive on weekends never been launched either and is mostly stock with bolt ons. I could have just bought a stock clutch and it would be fine and not do this.... Moral of the story is don't buy clutches from Competition Clutch unless you just like wasting time and money.
Last edited by 3gturbo; Nov 15, 2018 at 02:21 AM.
#22
Heres some more proof comp sucks and they won't even waranty their ****ty parts when it fails. You can clearly see how much life is left on the disc I have an Evo 9 I drive on weekends never been launched either and is mostly stock with bolt ons. I could have just bought a stock clutch and it would be fine and not do this.... Moral of the story is don't buy clutches from Competition Clutch unless you just like wasting time and money.
#23
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You don't understand what's going on here. Good luck.
I've seen every manufacturer's clutch disk have a spring/hub failure. When it happens, it's impossible to say if it was abuse or a mfg issue. For it to happen at 25k miles kinda points to it not being an mfg issue and I wouldn't expect them to warranty it.
I've seen every manufacturer's clutch disk have a spring/hub failure. When it happens, it's impossible to say if it was abuse or a mfg issue. For it to happen at 25k miles kinda points to it not being an mfg issue and I wouldn't expect them to warranty it.
Last edited by MinusPrevious; Nov 16, 2018 at 05:04 AM.
#25
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I have had excellent experiences with Comp Clutch, I have absolutely zero negative to say. Their customer service is exceptional, and they have jumped through hoops to make sure I was happy.
Are you dealing directly with Comp Clutch?
I run their twin disc, and was advised the discs would last around 20K miles. You gotta pay to play.
Are you dealing directly with Comp Clutch?
I run their twin disc, and was advised the discs would last around 20K miles. You gotta pay to play.
#26
I have had excellent experiences with Comp Clutch, I have absolutely zero negative to say. Their customer service is exceptional, and they have jumped through hoops to make sure I was happy.
Are you dealing directly with Comp Clutch?
I run their twin disc, and was advised the discs would last around 20K miles. You gotta pay to play.
Are you dealing directly with Comp Clutch?
I run their twin disc, and was advised the discs would last around 20K miles. You gotta pay to play.
We pay to play harder than you son and was in contact directly with Comp clutch . You should read the posts before posting anything .
#27
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Regardless your unwilling to listen to what anyone in this thread is telling you. For the flywheel bolts to keep backing out like they are, something is wrong with the harmonics of the engine, or the shop doing the work is incompetent and isn’t putting Locktite on the flywheel bolts. I’ve never seen a flywheel bolts with Locktite back out.
Last edited by MinusPrevious; Nov 16, 2018 at 09:58 AM.
#28
I did read the posts before I posted. You mentioned someone’s name who replied on the thread, I was unaware he is an affiliate for Comp Clutch.
Regardless your unwilling to listen to what anyone in this thread is telling you. For the flywheel bolts to keep backing out like they are, something is wrong with the harmonics of the engine, or the shop doing the work is incompetent and isn’t putting Locktite on the flywheel bolts. I’ve never seen a flywheel bolts with Locktite back out.
il post videos later that I sent when installing the bolts with locktite with their specific torque to show them that we were doing it the right way .
Last edited by MinusPrevious; Nov 16, 2018 at 04:12 PM.
#29
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I had a comp stage 3.5 or whatever in my car for 30k miles before it wore out, didn't have any issues with it. Went to an exedy twin disk after that because I wanted something with the torque capacity that drove a bit nicer.
I've installed like 8 or 9 comp's brought to me by customers, all single disk. No one has had an issue yet. Also put a few twin and triple disk comp's in without issue.
You guys can go on with your comp hate, but expecting someone to warranty a flywheel that fell off for unknown reasons, or warranty a clutch disk that failed OUTSIDE of the warranty period is asinine.
Alleging that I have some connection with Comp is hilarious.
I've installed like 8 or 9 comp's brought to me by customers, all single disk. No one has had an issue yet. Also put a few twin and triple disk comp's in without issue.
You guys can go on with your comp hate, but expecting someone to warranty a flywheel that fell off for unknown reasons, or warranty a clutch disk that failed OUTSIDE of the warranty period is asinine.
Alleging that I have some connection with Comp is hilarious.
#30
I had a comp stage 3.5 or whatever in my car for 30k miles before it wore out, didn't have any issues with it. Went to an exedy twin disk after that because I wanted something with the torque capacity that drove a bit nicer.
I've installed like 8 or 9 comp's brought to me by customers, all single disk. No one has had an issue yet. Also put a few twin and triple disk comp's in without issue.
You guys can go on with your comp hate, but expecting someone to warranty a flywheel that fell off for unknown reasons, or warranty a clutch disk that failed OUTSIDE of the warranty period is asinine.
Alleging that I have some connection with Comp is hilarious.
I've installed like 8 or 9 comp's brought to me by customers, all single disk. No one has had an issue yet. Also put a few twin and triple disk comp's in without issue.
You guys can go on with your comp hate, but expecting someone to warranty a flywheel that fell off for unknown reasons, or warranty a clutch disk that failed OUTSIDE of the warranty period is asinine.
Alleging that I have some connection with Comp is hilarious.