Evo8 v550 vrs. Ferrari F430 video!
MODERATORS please dont delete this thread this was done with police permision here in my country(you will see them in the video):)
the evo was on a 91oct map and we think its really fast for 91oct and the ferrari is completly stock! sorry for the video quality but it must be a problem with youtube here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB6WWViXQqA Happy new years to all:D |
Awesome! {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} The Rahal's ordered a 430 a few months back and should arrive sometime this year. It'll be interesting to run it against their v550 evo ix. They also have a GT40, Cerrara GT, GT3, Cayman, DB9, RS4 a c6 Z06 and some other ridiculous stuff. That little evo is in some seriously elite company!
-shiv |
cant see it :( what mods are on that Evo?
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I thought Evo would edge him out, but it didn't happen. Some 94 octane and it would be in evo coming in first.
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F430s are ridiculously quick. Way quicker than the older F360 or just about anything short of a Ford GT, Cerrara GT or Enzo. Amazing vehicle. If there was a standing start launch, the Evo would have taken it :)
-shiv |
add the c6z06 to that list :) very quick Evo...esp. on 91 oct!!
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Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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not to shabby
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I would think the evo with the larger turbo would be seriously hampered by 91 octane.
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Nice to see a 38K car hang with the big boy Ferrari!
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I tend to agree with Shiv....2nd and 3rd pulls have been bad for my Evo IX.
Cars that pulled me from 2nd and 3rd gear pull have been beaten for more than one car at 1/4 mile. Including Evos and STIs. The same day.... back to back. The numbers do not lie... first two gears are the best gears on the Evo... quick acceleration and traction... AWD. If the start line was standing I would bet that the Evo would have taking it. |
all day long it would have from the start............but hey they wanted to make it look good and have them side by side almost.....lol
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
(Post 3812533)
Awesome! {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} The Rahal's ordered a 430 a few months back and should arrive sometime this year. It'll be interesting to run it against their v550 evo ix. They also have a GT40, Cerrara GT, GT3, Cayman, DB9, RS4 a c6 Z06 and some other ridiculous stuff. That little evo is in some seriously elite company!
-shiv the owner of the ferrari is the owner of the evo! on the first try a friend of mine raced the evo and on the 2nd run they told me to race it cause i have my v360 evo! the ferrari owner knows that from a dig its a race against a v360 or v390 in the 1/4mile but he doesnt stand a chance against the v550 from a standstill:D ! we were all amaze on how this evo on 91 stood against this ferrari monster :D the runs were starting in 1st gear from a roll(the evo has the disadvantege but it didnt care:lol: ) we already ordered vp109 which is the race gas we use on the evos but will have to wait for it 3weeks:crap: ! here in Honduras the fastest cars we have are this ferrari and the evos most evos here are jdm versions except for this v550car then none i mean no other car has stood up to them:) ! we know we have a nice car(evo) and a nice company to support it(vishnu) thanks |
pointless untill you tell us what a v550 evo is.
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Originally Posted by 94AWDcoupe
(Post 3812952)
pointless untill you tell us what a v550 evo is.
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Was the Evo using straight pump gas or did he have his AMS Meth kit turned on?....Do tell:confused:
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Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 3813020)
Was the Evo using straight pump gas or did he have his AMS Meth kit turned on?....Do tell:confused:
also he was peak boosting at 24psi and holding 22.5psi at redline,(remeber we are at 3300feet above sea level its less knock prone and the colder weather and bigger intercooler help with no knock) maybe he added and octanebooster cant remeber but his map was the 91octmap and what hepled him also i think is the different final drive ratio he has from tre! |
awesome vid!!! evo would've beat him all day from a launch...IMO
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge the mods to the Evo are:
GT3071 turbo/w Vishnu tubular header larger injectors(size?) Perrin FMIC Walbro 255 HKS 280's(+1/-1) Cusco twin metallic clutch upgraded TC taller final drive ratio XEDE w/Smart AMS Meth kit 3" TBE cone filter.........and a bunch of other goodies |
Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 3813077)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge the mods to the Evo are:
GT3071 turbo/w Vishnu tubular header larger injectors(size?) Perrin FMIC Walbro 255 HKS 280's(+1/-1) Cusco twin metallic clutch upgraded TC taller final drive ratio XEDE w/Smart AMS Meth kit 3" TBE cone filter.........and a bunch of other goodies the only 2 things that still dont convince me are the open air filter in my opnion it sucks hot air from the engine bay and maybe thats not good and the alchy kit(this alcky kit everytime we use it the car sputters horrbible we have done a lot of datalogging and we have leaned out the fuel mixture and we just dont get it this time we wanted a clean race so we lowered boost and turned off the alcky but next time we will use vp109 and hopefully you will be back so i can give you a call btw happy new year:) ) |
next time with vp109 we will make it spike to 27psi and hold to redline 25psi and we wil be using the 100oct map with vp109 and there will be a very big difference in my opinion!
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yup, no doubt
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how much h.p did that evo have???????
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Originally Posted by bluebyu36
(Post 3813552)
how much h.p did that evo have???????
afrs where 11.5 at peak boost and by redline 10.8 which is very conservative and it doesnt have any knock! |
Cool, with vp 109 you will toast him.
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Originally Posted by streetturbo
(Post 3816158)
Cool, with vp 109 you will toast him.
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Originally Posted by jrsimon27
(Post 3813574)
we dont have an awd dyno here but we hooked up the blitz profesional gauge which goes connected to the ecu of the car and it reads 502hp at the crank with 91oct! you must input weight and other stuff to it and it gives crank horsepower
afrs where 11.5 at peak boost and by redline 10.8 which is very conservative and it doesnt have any knock! |
Originally Posted by dayf
(Post 3816380)
How fast were they going at the end?
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If your on stock sized tires I'd say thats something like 170 ish? That is, on the moon, upside down, on closed roads :)
Scorke |
lets see that race again with some race gas in the evo!
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ya have to be aroudn 120 by the bend.... that doesn't look like fun lol
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Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu
(Post 3812533)
Awesome! {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} {thumbup} The Rahal's ordered a 430 a few months back and should arrive sometime this year. It'll be interesting to run it against their v550 evo ix. They also have a GT40, Cerrara GT, GT3, Cayman, DB9, RS4 a c6 Z06 and some other ridiculous stuff. That little evo is in some seriously elite company!
-shiv I'll just have the GT3 and RS4 pls:D |
Originally Posted by bvdawg13
(Post 3816702)
lets see that race again with some race gas in the evo!
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Originally Posted by Scorke
If your on stock sized tires I'd say thats something like 170 ish? That is, on the moon, upside down, on closed roads
Scorke |
Originally Posted by meanmud
(Post 3817111)
I thought the Rahal's sold/were selling their Evo IX?
I'll just have the GT3 and RS4 pls:D -shiv |
with race fuel, you'll smoke the F430... trust me. :D
shiv hooked me up with the same v550 setup on my evo ix in addition to the xede, s.m.a.r.t., custom dyno tune, and everything else he has to offer. when i connect the wires and switch from 91 to race fuel... it's like a whole different animal. can't wait to see the vid w/ you smoking the F430 |
the ferrari only has a chance on the top end. (140+) due to its superior aero.
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I think that evo needs a little more modifcations to beat the F430. Cams , bigger turbo.. nice run though.
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that was on pump gas. on race gas that evo would make over 100 hp more.
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aye dios mio! That is friggin' awesome!:thumbup: :thumbup:
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yep we are still waiting for the race gas!
cant say the speed cause maybe the mods will delete the post, but it was more then what vishnuevo8 says;) the ferrari will be having some mods also he will add hamman headers and TBE and a reflash, hamann says it will gain like 50hp . |
JR, you should see about running the HKS 280's timing at settings other than +1/-1 on the Evo. Use a different setting that'll maximize topend power instead.
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that was pretty awsome
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Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 3826628)
JR, you should see about running the HKS 280's timing at settings other than +1/-1 on the Evo. Use a different setting that'll maximize topend power instead.
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IMHO a 3071 is a waste of a Turbo. Even AMS doesn't sell it as they think ity is a waste. BB50Trim is the smallest upgrade I would go with and it is the KING of pump gas Turbo's.
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
(Post 3828416)
IMHO a 3071 is a waste of a Turbo. Even AMS doesn't sell it as they think ity is a waste. BB50Trim is the smallest upgrade I would go with and it is the KING of pump gas Turbo's.
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he lost!!!!but yea i have that same :mitsu: hat but white :lol:
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Originally Posted by High_PSI
(Post 3828416)
IMHO a 3071 is a waste of a Turbo. Even AMS doesn't sell it as they think ity is a waste. BB50Trim is the smallest upgrade I would go with and it is the KING of pump gas Turbo's.
With a turbo upgrade to a 35R on race gas/meth, he would pull about 8-10 car lengths on the Italian car. |
I have yet to so a GT3076R outperform a BB 50trim in any way. Especially track times.
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Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 3830883)
Yeah, I agree, the owner of the Evo uses it almost exclusively for drag racing on race gas plus meth, so he should have not gone with such a dinky restrictive turbo. He should have at least gotten a 3076/3037 from the outset, but given the application he should have actually just jumped to a 3065/35R right off the bat.
With a turbo upgrade to a 35R on race gas/meth, he would pull about 8-10 car lengths on the Italian car. maybe on race gas he will pull away 5cars or more,and in a dragrace from a standstill the ferrari doesnt stand a chance at all all ,we where giving the advantages to the ferrari not the evo next time it will be backwards and ill give you a call so you can go see it!:) |
I think he did a good job with what he has. Good race. It's always nice to have the cops in on a street race.
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Evo vs. Ferrari
You gotta get that alky tune working right.:) I love mine with similiar setup and it never misses a beat on alky, even with stock ignition.
Either alky on 91 Oct. or race gas without alky and a good tune can make as much as 100 crank HP more than plain 91 Oct., at least with a 3076 turbo. Thats what Shiv dynoed on my V550 with similiar mods except I have a slightly larger turbo (3076). But my map for plain 91 Oct. was very conversative for use on track days and the tune for alky was pretty aggressive, thus making the difference larger. Whats so cool is with this setup (using alky) you can just switch one toggle on the dash to trigger the alky map and then activate the alky and have that extra 100 crank HP any time you want it, without the expense of race gas, in just seconds, without even stoping. In reality I drive most of the time on the street with the alky on. Thats because the alky power is so addictive.:D With well over 500 crank HP (on Alky) it truly is a real kick on the street. |
What type of Alky injection setup are you running? I'm looking into alky injection as well since I too live in the land of crappy 91oct gas{thumbdwn} {thumbdwn}
Originally Posted by tuner
(Post 3865392)
You gotta get that alky tune working right.:) I love mine with similiar setup and it never misses a beat on alky, even with stock ignition.
Either alky on 91 Oct. or race gas without alky and a good tune can make as much as 100 crank HP more than plain 91 Oct., at least with a 3076 turbo. Thats what Shiv dynoed on my V550 with similiar mods except I have a slightly larger turbo (3076). But my map for plain 91 Oct. was very conversative for use on track days and the tune for alky was pretty aggressive, thus making the difference larger. Whats so cool is with this setup (using alky) you can just switch one toggle on the dash to trigger the alky map and then activate the alky and have that extra 100 crank HP any time you want it, without the expense of race gas, in just seconds, without even stoping. In reality I drive most of the time on the street with the alky on. Thats because the alky power is so addictive.:D With well over 500 crank HP (on Alky) it truly is a real kick on the street. |
Originally Posted by jrsimon27
(Post 3831111)
you are correct but when using a 35r i think you need to upgrade your stock internals and this car has bone stock internals excluding the 280cams he has!
maybe on race gas he will pull away 5cars or more,and in a dragrace from a standstill the ferrari doesnt stand a chance at all all ,we where giving the advantages to the ferrari not the evo next time it will be backwards and ill give you a call so you can go see it!:) |
What type of Alky injection setup are you running? I'm looking into alky injection as well since I too live in the land of crappy 91oct gas I sourced mine from Alky Control (Julio Don is very helpful) but I believe :confused: most people get the same setup from AMS. Its a great setup. We have the gain set at about 1-1:30 PM on the dial and use the GM MAP to control the Alky, not the Xede. As a safeguard the alky setup has a pressure switch that lets you know via a small LED that pressure is getting to the nozzle. With the SMART system in the Xede we have a second safeguard as it will recognize and adjust for a lean condition, such as would occur if the alky system is not working under boost. A low fuel warning light from the alky tank provides additional security. All in all, I feel comfortable that I'm not going to blow my engine using meth and oh, does it help with my tube header 3076 setup:) . |
Originally Posted by jrsimon27
(Post 3831111)
you are correct but when using a 35r i think you need to upgrade your stock internals and this car has bone stock internals excluding the 280cams he has!
maybe on race gas he will pull away 5cars or more,and in a dragrace from a standstill the ferrari doesnt stand a chance at all all ,we where giving the advantages to the ferrari not the evo next time it will be backwards and ill give you a call so you can go see it!:) Admit it..... the Evo is a purpose built drag car anyway(witness the special final drive ratio that allows him to stay in 4th gear and not shift into 5th, the light weight racing wheels, the TRE transfer case). So the guy is effectively hobbling himself by running the smallest 30R, when by going to a 35R he would pick up at least 100 HP. Let's call a spade a spade. I mean the guy has, at best, faulty reasoning. This is a guy who has to go out and buy a Ferrari to race against himself. And then he can't even beat his own self. |
Originally Posted by sparky
(Post 3866297)
I still think that the Evo owner(who also incidentally owns the F430), should just swap the 3071, which doesn't flow any more air than the latest stock replacement bolt-on turbos, and strap on a 35R.
Admit it..... the Evo is a purpose built drag car anyway(witness the special final drive ratio that allows him to stay in 4th gear and not shift into 5th, the light weight racing wheels, the TRE transfer case). So the guy is effectively hobbling himself by running the smallest 30R, when by going to a 35R he would pick up at least 100 HP. Let's call a spade a spade. I mean the guy has, at best, faulty reasoning. This is a guy who has to go out and buy a Ferrari to race against himself. And then he can't even beat his own self. |
Thanks for the video. I'd like to see that from a standing start on race gas.
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