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MP5 Jan 13, 2004 09:00 PM

Differences between EZ's and the current catless stage 1
 
Shiv upon reviewing the stage 1 (w/o cat) and Ez's Stage 1+ both cars were tuned on 100 octane but I didnt see a whole lota power given by the cams throughout the curve :dunno: Whats the score is the cat that restrictive? If so find us a 0420 fix ASAP!!

What you you figure the stage 1+ will make on 93 octane on a DD?

What about the stage 1+ on 100 octane on the DD? If it doesnt differ from Ez's then the cat blows bad and we need a cel fix

Ryanmcd3 Jan 13, 2004 09:37 PM

Re: Differences between EZ's and the current catless stage 1
 
Get Ken working on that 420 fix :apimp:




Originally posted by MP5
Shiv upon reviewing the stage 1 (w/o cat) and Ez's Stage 1+ both cars were tuned on 100 octane but I didnt see a whole lota power given by the cams throughout the curve :dunno: Whats the score is the cat that restrictive? If so find us a 0420 fix ASAP!!

What you you figure the stage 1+ will make on 93 octane on a DD?

What about the stage 1+ on 100 octane on the DD? If it doesnt differ from Ez's then the cat blows bad and we need a cel fix


ez76 Jan 13, 2004 10:27 PM

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For some perspective, here is a before (stage 1) and after (stage 1+).

ez76 Jan 13, 2004 10:28 PM

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Stage 1+

ez76 Jan 13, 2004 10:36 PM

different axes aside, you can see the 24ft.lb. mid-range improvements (which are no doubt partly due to the XEDEFlash and increased boost there) and on the high-end the car keeps at least 240ft.lb. of torque until 6400rpm compared to 5000rpm with stage 1.

MP5 Jan 13, 2004 10:37 PM

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Yes I looked at that too but the current stage 1 w/ cat delete was

MP5 Jan 13, 2004 10:39 PM


Originally posted by ez76
different axes aside, you can see the 24ft.lb. mid-range improvements (which are no doubt partly due to the XEDEFlash and increased boost there) and on the high-end the car keeps at least 240ft.lb. of torque until 6400rpm compared to 5000rpm with stage 1.
Your right your TQ is noticably better And Im drunk so that said the HP is still too close for me to think the cat is causing some clog

ez76 Jan 13, 2004 10:43 PM

definitely see what you're saying and it would definitely seem like the cat (even the high-flow one i am running) is restrictive!

assuming minimal car variance on 100oct, good for almost 8-14ft.lb. from 3600-6400rpm! next time i'm in the shop i'll submit for a test pipe run to see what the 1+ does on 100oct and no cat

Aby@MIL.SPEC Jan 14, 2004 07:15 AM

which model ex system are you running? On the vishnu site, the cats look different beween the std & sig ex systems? Is that true? Do you know for certain what brand/model cat you are running?

ez76 Jan 14, 2004 10:52 AM

I am running the signature series exhaust. Shiv, are there substantial differences between the cats?

Aby@MIL.SPEC Jan 14, 2004 11:31 AM

I believe the sig series runs the car sound cat. It looks like the 94109 model, however I dont know for sure. did you do a compare between cat vs test pipe on 91 octane?

shiv@vishnu Jan 14, 2004 11:38 AM


Originally posted by WOT
which model ex system are you running? On the vishnu site, the cats look different beween the std & sig ex systems? Is that true? Do you know for certain what brand/model cat you are running?
Nope :) But no cat, as flow goes, is far better than even the most free-est flowing 3" cat. Still, running cat-less is just asking for trouble in most states. It will also give you a headache during stop and go traffic. My suggestion is to keep the cats and just install cams to make up for the power loss :) Or install the optional test pipe when you go to the track to have some fun.

Cheers,
shiv

meanmud Jan 14, 2004 01:37 PM

Or install the optional test pipe when you go to the track to have some fun.
 
Shiv,

I assume we can install a switch to go cat-less, in addition to race gas, for track fun?

ez76 Jan 14, 2004 01:53 PM

is a switched set-up still illegal for road use? (since "at any time" you could be running catless)?


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