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Richard L Dec 8, 2005 09:51 AM

Who's who and what and where...
 
********** Updated: 23rd February 2014 **********

It is a good time to do a complete listing of current water/alky injection manufacturers and their product. Specifications, capabilities and price range. It is a copy post from EVOM a few months ago and have proved to be useful to most potential WIA users.

I will start and fill-in more manufacturers as more information is available:

Activeautowerke
Location: Active Autowerke Miami, Florida, USA.
Capabilities: Adjustable manifold pressure activation
Pump: Shurflo
Electronic Controller option:: No details
Chemical compatibility: Water, Alcohol
Failsafe: not mentioned on site
Price range: US$1200.00
Warranty: Not mentioned on site
URL: http://activeautowerke.com/cooling/main.php
EMAIL: aatuning@activeautowerke.com

AEM
Location: Hawthorne CA 90250 USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to IDC/MAP sensor.
Pump: Aquatec with by-pass USA
Electronic Controller::Based on pump speed to vary pressure/ flow.
Chemical compatibility: Water, methanol
Failsafe: Turbine Flow sensor based as an option from US$277.
Price range: US$422-450
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.aemelectronics.com/water-...ction-kits-23/
EMAIL: emstech@aemelectronics.com

AIS
Location: No address published, believed to be USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to manifold pressure and any 0-5V signal.
Pump: Aquatec with by-pass USA
Electronic Controller:: Based on pump speed to vary pressure/ flow.
Chemical compatibility: Water, methanol
Failsafe: No option on site.
Price range: US$468.99-659.00
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/index.html/
PHONE: 1-801-447-2559

Alkycontrol
Location: Alkycontrol. USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to MAP sensor. Inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.
Pump: Shurflo
Electronic Controller::Based on PAC module controlling pump speed to vary pressure
Chemical compatibility: Water, Alcohol
Failsafe: Failsafe Bi-colored LED works of pressure sensing, inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.
Price range: from: US$425-495
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.alkycontrol.com/
Online form or phone

Aquamist
Location: ERL Ltd, East Sussex, England.
Capabilities: PWM inline valve and electronic controller
Pump: 160psi by-pass Aquatec pump
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol. 100% methanol.
Failsafe: Turbine flow sensor- full time monitoring with in- dash gauge. boost drop and map switching output.
Price range: US$550-850.
Warranty: 12 months
URL: www.aquamist-direct.com
EMAIL: richard@aquamist.co.uk (sales enquiry), richard@aquamist.co.uk (technical)

Aquastealth
Location: Not specified, somewhere in USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, Pressure switch activated inline solenoid.
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water and Methanol.
Failsafe: unspecified
Price range: US$199.00
Warranty: Not mentioned on site
URL: www.aquastealth.com
EMAIL: sales@aquastealth.com

Coolingmist
Location: No shop address. believed to be USA based.
Capabilities: Progressive, Static flow – single or dual stage
Electronic Controller: Digital Programmable "progressive" style controller capable. Pump speed based.
Pump: Aquatec USA
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol.
Failsafe:: Pump current monitoring - no flow sensor option.
Price range: US$270 to $899.95
Warranty: 1 Year Warranty
URL: www.coolingmist.com
EMAIL: coolingmist@comcast.net

Devilsown
Location: Oklahoma City, Ok USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, PWM pump speed control option
Electronic controller option: 0-5v (selectable scales 2 bar,3 bar,voltage) – pump speed based system.
Pump: Custom Aquatec USA
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol safe (EPDM Seals)
Failsafe: None.
Price range: US$380-460
Warranty: One Year Limited
www.alcohol-injection.com
EMAIL: sales@.alcohol-injection.com (sales inquiry), support@alcohol-injection.com (technical)

Hydramist by Element Tuning
(Work with Hydra EMS only)

Location: WA, USA.
Capabilities: Full 3D hi-res mappable, inbuilt failsafe.
Electronic controller: Element Hydra stand-alone EMS.
Pump: Shurflo (150W), with 160psi internal by-pass
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol, Ethanol, Iso-propyl
Failsafe: DDS3 flow sensing system - auto map switching via DDS3 v7.
Price range: US$799.00 not including Hydra EMS
Warranty: Not yet specified
EMAIL: phil@elementtuning.com
URL: www.elementtuning.com

RSR
Location: RB Racing, California, USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, Port injection
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol.
Failsafe: water level switch
Price range: US$745.00-795.00
Warranty: call
URL: www.rbracing-rsr.com/waterinjection.html

Snow Performance
Location: Snow Performance, Colorado, USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, solenoid
Electronic controller option: Progressive pump speed controller +$129.00
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol
Failsafe: turbine flow sensor- boost bypass, map switch.
Price range: US$604 - 803 (IDC/MAP/MAF vs Pump speed)
Warranty: limited option by vendor
URL: http://snowperformance.net
EMAIL: sales@snowperformance.net





This is by far the most comprehensive research I have done for a long time. I will continue to update. Adding more manufacturers.

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richard@aquamist.co.uk

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dryad001 Dec 8, 2005 09:54 AM

Wow what a great idea, this has got to be stickied.

What about Buschur, AMS...

Richard L Dec 8, 2005 09:58 AM

Please send information,

I will update it - I believe SMC made some of them? Please confirm.

I need all your help to compile the entire list. It may looked biased since I have put Aquamist on the top - unless I call ourselves Zquamist.

Richard

Richard L Dec 8, 2005 10:22 AM

I have just visited AMS and Buschur website and none are listing water/alky injection kit.

I am only listing manufacturers and not product re-labelled resellers.

Richard

SlowCar Dec 8, 2005 11:55 AM

Aquamist is COOLER :D


Originally Posted by Richard L
- unless I call ourselves Zquamist.


TTP Engineering Dec 8, 2005 07:44 PM

Not off to a good start... TTP-Engineering does not sell Snow Performance kits. You did not request this information from us and your misinformation is slanderous. This thread should be deleted if the information cannot be kept factual. We are located in Orlando, FL which is no where near Calardo or Colorado.

Where is the Truth Squad when you need them? LOL


TTP Engineering
Location: Snow Perfprmance, Colardo, USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, Progressive controller –sold separately(PWM pump)
Pump: Shurflo Based
Control option: pressure switch, TPS or MAP (0-5v selectable)
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol
Failsafe: Not mentioned
Price range: US$399.00
Electronic Controller: not mentioned on site
Warranty: not mentioned on site
URL: http://www.ttp-engineering.com
EMAIL: online form filling


I will update the list as more information becomes available. Please post on this thread if you have found any incorrect information – use the above information at your own risk.

Richard L

SlowCar Dec 8, 2005 08:02 PM

hmmm......did you have some bad food for dinner? The nice dude is trying to summarize what is available out there...........and all i can see is the location is entered wrong...and you are all bent out of shape....slanderous? :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Not off to a good start... TTP-Engineering does not sell Snow Performance kits. You did not request this information from us and your misinformation is slanderous. This thread should be deleted if the information cannot be kept factual. We are located in Orlando, FL which is no where near Colorado.

Where is the Truth Squad when you need them?


Ultimate CC Dec 8, 2005 08:03 PM

Buschur uses SMC and AMS uses alkycontrol

SlowCar Dec 8, 2005 08:03 PM

had to dig this one out from a past post, barb fittings and vinyl hose.........any idea how it works?

http://www.aquatune.com/index.asp

Ultimate CC Dec 8, 2005 08:05 PM

http://www.alkycontrol.com/

Speedlimit Dec 8, 2005 08:05 PM

Richard L wrote:

I will update the list as more information becomes available. Please post on this thread if you have found any incorrect information – use the above information at your own risk.


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TTP Engineering:

I don't understand your point. Why is it slanderous? Or vendor bashing? He ask for comments which you have given him. He made a mistake and I assume will fix it. If he doesn't, I'll remove it.

Speedlimit...

gofaster87 Dec 8, 2005 08:19 PM

No wonder the English think we are jackasses. Richard L has been the most helpful person I know in the water injection arena going as far as sending me parts from England free of charge. This truth squad BS is getting out of hand, everytime something happens on this forum somebody brings up that bull*hit. Shame on you Tom(smogrunner) for starting this crap. Funny he knows better than to try to start something like this on SoCal Evo.

TTP Engineering Dec 8, 2005 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Speedlimit
Richard L wrote:

I will update the list as more information becomes available. Please post on this thread if you have found any incorrect information – use the above information at your own risk.


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TTP Engineering:

I don't understand your point. Why is it slanderous? Or vendor bashing? He ask for comments which you have given him. He made a mistake and I assume will fix it. If he doesn't, I'll remove it.

Speedlimit...

I am certain Snow Performance would not like our company name paired with their address and location. Likewise, we do not sell their products and do not want to be associated with them. Everything from the location to company to the pricing is incorrect.

SlowCar Dec 8, 2005 08:27 PM

at least...this is more civilised......just PM Richard or write the correct info here and it will be corrected once he sees it :beer:

Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I am certain Snow Performance would not like our company name paired with their address and location. Likewise, we do not sell their products and do not want to be associated with them. Everything from the location to company to the pricing is incorrect.


fromWRXtoEVO Dec 9, 2005 01:00 AM

How about AMS alcohol kit?and how about the fancy water system from Works?


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