Brakes and Wheels FYI - Read first
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Brakes and Wheels FYI - Read first
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=108090
Read that first. You'll find that many of your questions are probably answered in there.
15"-16" steelies
16x6 +46 (stock wheel)
16x7
17x7
18x7
On a 7" wide wheel, a 45 offset will clear, but it's really, really tight, and you'd have to run the stock width tire. If you want to run a wider tire, go with the 40 offset, or even less if you're willing to have a body shop modify your fenders.
Stock tire is 205/50/16
On 7" wide wheels, offset can be anywhere from +40- +45, though +40 puts the wheel as far out as possible, and will probably look the best. (otter)
EVO WHEELS WILL NOT FIT RALLIARTS WITHOUT MODIFYING THE FENDERS.
Read that first. You'll find that many of your questions are probably answered in there.
15"-16" steelies
16x6 +46 (stock wheel)
16x7
17x7
18x7
On a 7" wide wheel, a 45 offset will clear, but it's really, really tight, and you'd have to run the stock width tire. If you want to run a wider tire, go with the 40 offset, or even less if you're willing to have a body shop modify your fenders.
Stock tire is 205/50/16
On 7" wide wheels, offset can be anywhere from +40- +45, though +40 puts the wheel as far out as possible, and will probably look the best. (otter)
EVO WHEELS WILL NOT FIT RALLIARTS WITHOUT MODIFYING THE FENDERS.
Last edited by otter; Jul 11, 2009 at 08:51 AM.
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Ralliart Brake Pads FYI
In searching for the best deal in a new set of brake pads for the front, I'm finding that most sites aren't up to date on their model listings, so they never have anything listed for Ralliarts (or even Lancers). Here's a quick list of the cars who share the same front pads as the Ralliart:
FMSI D866
2001 - 2005 Chrysler Sebring (Coupe) - LX, LXi 6 cyl Front
2001 - 2005 Dodge Stratus Coupe 6 cyl Front
2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse Exc. Turbo 6 cyl. Front
2002 - 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Exc. Turbo Front
06/00 - 2001 Mitsubishi Galant (Exc. Sigma) V6 Front
2002 - 2007 Mitsubishi Galant (Exc. Sigma) Front
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer (Exc. Evolution) 2.4L Front
2003 - 2004 Mitsubishi Outlander Front
2007 Dodge Caliber
2007 Jeep Compass and Patroit
2008 Lancer
For the rear:
FMSI D1037
05-06 Outlander
07-08 Caliber (R/T and SRT-4)
07-08 Sebring
08 Dodge Avenger
07-08 Jeep Compass, Patriot
08 Lancer (ES only)
If you have brake part numbers to share (whether for pads, rotors, lines, etc) please post them here.
AXXIS/PBR front pad numbers:
MTS077483 (ultimates) 550*C/1022*F MOT (max. operating temperature)
MTS070554 (metal masters)
MTS070551 (deluxe)
Hawk front pad numbers:
HB435F.622 (HPS - 750*F MOT)
HB435Y.622 (LTS - intended for trucks, but it'll fit)
Hawk rear pad numbers:
HB457F.605 (HPS 750*F MOT)
HB457Z.605 (ceramic)
HB457N.605 (HP Plus 750*F MOT)
HB457E.605 (blue 9012 - RACE COMPOUND)
HB457S.605 (HT 10 - RACE COMPOUND)
EBC front pads
D866 (Ultimax - OE grade)
DP21614 (Greenstuff)
DP31614C (Redstuff)
DP41614R (Yellowstuff - race)
EBC rear pads
D1037 (Ultimax)
DP21563 (Greenstuff 650*C MOT)
DP31563C (Redstuff 650*C MOT)
DP41563R (Yellowstuff 800*C MOT, safe for track use)
Porterfield
AP866 (front - available in R4, R4-E, and R4-1)
AP1037 (rear - same options as above)
EXPENSIVE, but super high quality pads if you race, and they'll custom make pads in the other compounds they offer.
I have no idea why Hawk makes more rear pads than front pads. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Rotors are 10.9" front, 10.3" rear, 5x114 bolt pattern.
High performance rotors are available from the following companies:
RRM
EBC
PowerSlot
R1 Concepts
Brembo
SP Performance
FMSI D866
2001 - 2005 Chrysler Sebring (Coupe) - LX, LXi 6 cyl Front
2001 - 2005 Dodge Stratus Coupe 6 cyl Front
2001 Mitsubishi Eclipse Exc. Turbo 6 cyl. Front
2002 - 2007 Mitsubishi Eclipse Exc. Turbo Front
06/00 - 2001 Mitsubishi Galant (Exc. Sigma) V6 Front
2002 - 2007 Mitsubishi Galant (Exc. Sigma) Front
2004 Mitsubishi Lancer (Exc. Evolution) 2.4L Front
2003 - 2004 Mitsubishi Outlander Front
2007 Dodge Caliber
2007 Jeep Compass and Patroit
2008 Lancer
For the rear:
FMSI D1037
05-06 Outlander
07-08 Caliber (R/T and SRT-4)
07-08 Sebring
08 Dodge Avenger
07-08 Jeep Compass, Patriot
08 Lancer (ES only)
If you have brake part numbers to share (whether for pads, rotors, lines, etc) please post them here.
AXXIS/PBR front pad numbers:
MTS077483 (ultimates) 550*C/1022*F MOT (max. operating temperature)
MTS070554 (metal masters)
MTS070551 (deluxe)
Hawk front pad numbers:
HB435F.622 (HPS - 750*F MOT)
HB435Y.622 (LTS - intended for trucks, but it'll fit)
Hawk rear pad numbers:
HB457F.605 (HPS 750*F MOT)
HB457Z.605 (ceramic)
HB457N.605 (HP Plus 750*F MOT)
HB457E.605 (blue 9012 - RACE COMPOUND)
HB457S.605 (HT 10 - RACE COMPOUND)
EBC front pads
D866 (Ultimax - OE grade)
DP21614 (Greenstuff)
DP31614C (Redstuff)
DP41614R (Yellowstuff - race)
EBC rear pads
D1037 (Ultimax)
DP21563 (Greenstuff 650*C MOT)
DP31563C (Redstuff 650*C MOT)
DP41563R (Yellowstuff 800*C MOT, safe for track use)
Porterfield
AP866 (front - available in R4, R4-E, and R4-1)
AP1037 (rear - same options as above)
EXPENSIVE, but super high quality pads if you race, and they'll custom make pads in the other compounds they offer.
I have no idea why Hawk makes more rear pads than front pads. It makes no sense whatsoever.
Rotors are 10.9" front, 10.3" rear, 5x114 bolt pattern.
High performance rotors are available from the following companies:
RRM
EBC
PowerSlot
R1 Concepts
Brembo
SP Performance
Last edited by otter; Apr 9, 2008 at 02:01 PM. Reason: adding more rear pad info
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I've used the Axxis untimates up front. These were great for aut-x and provided great initial bite and impressive frade resistance. I also did some brisk TSD rallying and this involves some hevy left foot braking. Pads were amazing and never faded.
Only thing is that they make CRAZY brake dust and will wear out about 2x faster than OEM pads.
If your into auto-x and track, the EBC reds would be a good choice. They are VERY easy on rotors and create a minimal amount of dust. These are a pad that can be used on the track and will not fade. EBC reds(ceramic) are like the HAWK HP+(metallic=eat rotors) for performance aspect.
For a front biased braking system like the RA, look for an even more aggressive rear pad to help with the braking balance.
Everyone talks about BIG BRAKE upgrades, but they don't even get proper pads first.
Get good pads from the list above and work from there.
Good job Otter, I would have loved this info when I had my lancer.
Only thing is that they make CRAZY brake dust and will wear out about 2x faster than OEM pads.
If your into auto-x and track, the EBC reds would be a good choice. They are VERY easy on rotors and create a minimal amount of dust. These are a pad that can be used on the track and will not fade. EBC reds(ceramic) are like the HAWK HP+(metallic=eat rotors) for performance aspect.
For a front biased braking system like the RA, look for an even more aggressive rear pad to help with the braking balance.
Everyone talks about BIG BRAKE upgrades, but they don't even get proper pads first.
Get good pads from the list above and work from there.
Good job Otter, I would have loved this info when I had my lancer.
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What would be a good brake pad for daily driving? A replacement for the OEM. I dont wanna get the OEMS. Is there a better brake-pad for the same price as the OEM ?
PM me thx , fyi it has to be quiet as the stock
PM me thx , fyi it has to be quiet as the stock
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Here are some neat tools to check different settings:
http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp
http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp
Mods---can we get a sticky for these? I have posted them for more than one person on here. They are very useful.
http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp
http://www.1010tires.com/tech.asp
Mods---can we get a sticky for these? I have posted them for more than one person on here. They are very useful.
Last edited by Myszkewicz; Nov 9, 2006 at 08:14 AM.
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All Lancer Tire Size Reference
Lancer Evolution 03,04,05,06
Stock 215/45 R17
17" 225/45 R17 , 235/40 R17 , 245/40 R17
18" 235/35 R18 , 245/35 R18
19" 235/30 R19 , 245/30 R19
Lancer Ralliart 04,05,06
Stock 205/50 R16
16" 215/50 R16 , 225,45 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/40 R17 , 245/35 R17
18" 215/35 R18 , 225/35 R18
Lancer OZ-Rally 02,03,04,05,06
Stock 195/60 R15
16" 205/50 R16 , 215/50 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/45 R17 , 225/40 R17
18" 215/35 R18 , 225/35 R18
Lancer ES , LS , Glx 02,03,04,05
Stock 185/65 R14
15" 195/55 R15 , 205/50 R15
16" 205/45 R16 , 215/45 R16
17" 205/40 R17 , 215/40 R17
Lancer ES , LS , Glx 06 and above
Stock 195/60 R15
16" 205/50 R16 , 215/45 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/45 R17 , 225/40 R17
18" 215/35 R18
All the above listed sizes are less than 1 mile of increase or decrease in the speedometer at a speed of 60 mile/hr.
Stock 215/45 R17
17" 225/45 R17 , 235/40 R17 , 245/40 R17
18" 235/35 R18 , 245/35 R18
19" 235/30 R19 , 245/30 R19
Lancer Ralliart 04,05,06
Stock 205/50 R16
16" 215/50 R16 , 225,45 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/40 R17 , 245/35 R17
18" 215/35 R18 , 225/35 R18
Lancer OZ-Rally 02,03,04,05,06
Stock 195/60 R15
16" 205/50 R16 , 215/50 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/45 R17 , 225/40 R17
18" 215/35 R18 , 225/35 R18
Lancer ES , LS , Glx 02,03,04,05
Stock 185/65 R14
15" 195/55 R15 , 205/50 R15
16" 205/45 R16 , 215/45 R16
17" 205/40 R17 , 215/40 R17
Lancer ES , LS , Glx 06 and above
Stock 195/60 R15
16" 205/50 R16 , 215/45 R16
17" 205/45 R17 , 215/45 R17 , 225/40 R17
18" 215/35 R18
All the above listed sizes are less than 1 mile of increase or decrease in the speedometer at a speed of 60 mile/hr.
Last edited by abcarino; Jan 10, 2007 at 04:17 PM.
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I opened this thread. I want people to contribute, if they can, temperature ratings of various brake pads for our car. Most of you probably don't care about this, but for the few who track their Ralliarts (me), it's critical information. After this weekend, I'll post up and let you know how the Axxis pads do. I run EBC yellowstuff on the rear and am considering changing the fronts to that compound, too. Thanks
Last edited by otter; Apr 9, 2008 at 02:03 PM.
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tri-net motorsports, ebay store, makes drilled, slotted, and drilled and slotted for the RA. They have like 28 different patterns i got drilled and slotted for like 300 shipped all around and notice a huge difference.
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18" 215/35 R18 , 225/35 R18
Gram Lights 57Optimise
Finish: White Painted
Offset: 43mm
Backspacing: 5.90"
Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size:215/35-18
Weight: 19.5lbs.
But have concerns about rubbing. Tire Rack says they will fit, but it's 2" above the stock size and it seems to me that there would probably be issues.
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i had 18's with 215/35/18 tires and they where ok the only rubbing you get is when you make a u-turn o sharp turn the wheels will rub the plastic but thats about it im going with 215/40/18 size tires now because the other size look to small and will damage my rim depending on the pot hole....