BR presents the new FP BLACK HTA82!
Oct 22, 2009, 05:26 AM
#271
Ok. When the time comes for Upgrading your Evo 9 to a Black I wonder what kind of price their going to come up with. I know right now their isn't a upgrade yet. And they are still working on it. I guess we can look at these numbers and get a rough estatment. (This is from FP site)
Evo 9 Turbo Upgrade to:
Red--$999
Green 73HTA--$869
White--$695
I wonder how much they are going to bump the price for the Black upgrade? I would guess roughly $200 dollars more than what the Red is. What do you all think?
???FP Black Upgrade--$1199????
Evo 9 Turbo Upgrade to:
Red--$999
Green 73HTA--$869
White--$695
I wonder how much they are going to bump the price for the Black upgrade? I would guess roughly $200 dollars more than what the Red is. What do you all think?
???FP Black Upgrade--$1199????
Oct 22, 2009, 06:57 AM
#273
I think Kevin's pretty happy with the car like it is to be honest. On top of that the turbo/car isn't tapped out with the Red yet. It only ran 10.35 at 138 on a reflash and E85, that was at about 32 psi of boost. I'd like to see the car go in the 9's like it is someday if Kevin gets the urge to give it a shot.
I sell parts, everybody knows that and some will have you believe selling parts is a "crime". I don't feel the need to jump on every next biggest and best thing that comes along though and neither should anyone else.
The Red has already been proven to go 9.50's at 145 in race cars, take your combination into consideration, weight of your car, 60' times and such and if you aren't running something impressive already on your current combination then upgrading to another turbo isn't going to fix anyone's mistakes (well not always, could have a POS turbo combo holding you back).
The cars that have run 9.5's weigh about 2650 with no driver. Project White weighed in at about 3070 without driver. That's 400+ pounds, much of which is in tire/wheel/brake. Given that information Project White should run 9.90-10.1 or so. Until it runs those times I see no sense in changing the turbo on it.
Besides, I think Kevin's just enjoying the hell out of the car to be honest. I haven't heard mention of any drag racing plans with it. Honestly, that was one of the best cars we've ever built, loved that one.
I sell parts, everybody knows that and some will have you believe selling parts is a "crime". I don't feel the need to jump on every next biggest and best thing that comes along though and neither should anyone else.
The Red has already been proven to go 9.50's at 145 in race cars, take your combination into consideration, weight of your car, 60' times and such and if you aren't running something impressive already on your current combination then upgrading to another turbo isn't going to fix anyone's mistakes (well not always, could have a POS turbo combo holding you back).
The cars that have run 9.5's weigh about 2650 with no driver. Project White weighed in at about 3070 without driver. That's 400+ pounds, much of which is in tire/wheel/brake. Given that information Project White should run 9.90-10.1 or so. Until it runs those times I see no sense in changing the turbo on it.
Besides, I think Kevin's just enjoying the hell out of the car to be honest. I haven't heard mention of any drag racing plans with it. Honestly, that was one of the best cars we've ever built, loved that one.
Oct 22, 2009, 07:55 AM
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Someone asked about auto x-ing this turbo.... It has the same spool as an old GREEN.. Sounds awesome... When I get an evo, this turbo is goin on it.
IS this NOT considered "stock appearing" with the different compressor housing?
IS this NOT considered "stock appearing" with the different compressor housing?
Oct 22, 2009, 08:07 AM
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Your question was JUST answered (literally ~10 posts and 8 hours ago)! For goodness sakes the only difference in appearance is the inlet, and DB just said yes it is still considered stock appearing!
Oct 22, 2009, 08:52 AM
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Not the same spool as the green, slightly slower than the red which is 800-1000 RPM slower than the green.
Your question was JUST answered (literally ~10 posts and 8 hours ago)! For goodness sakes the only difference in appearance is the inlet, and DB just said yes it is still considered stock appearing!
Your question was JUST answered (literally ~10 posts and 8 hours ago)! For goodness sakes the only difference in appearance is the inlet, and DB just said yes it is still considered stock appearing!
And by OLD GREEN, I meant dsm OLD GREEN... 20psi @ 3800rpm.. We on the same page now....!!!!!
Oct 22, 2009, 08:59 AM
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On 93, 28-30 psi, how much hp/tq would the Black produce on a low reading dyno??? lets say buschur's dyno???
Is the lag noticible on a daily driver??? can it be a burden???
Is the lag noticible on a daily driver??? can it be a burden???
Oct 22, 2009, 09:28 AM
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I went from a green to a red & only saw ~300 rpm difference at most!
in fact, hitting 25psi was less than 200 rpm difference
I will post up a 3rd gear boost compare of the 2 turbos.....hell, i may also have a evo IX log to throw in there as well.
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Oct 22, 2009, 09:59 AM
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Have you driven a Red? If the "lag" is noticeable on the Red then it will be about as noticeable on the Black, from what I've read.
Oct 22, 2009, 10:17 AM
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I think Kevin's pretty happy with the car like it is to be honest. On top of that the turbo/car isn't tapped out with the Red yet. It only ran 10.35 at 138 on a reflash and E85, that was at about 32 psi of boost. I'd like to see the car go in the 9's like it is someday if Kevin gets the urge to give it a shot.
I sell parts, everybody knows that and some will have you believe selling parts is a "crime". I don't feel the need to jump on every next biggest and best thing that comes along though and neither should anyone else.
The Red has already been proven to go 9.50's at 145 in race cars, take your combination into consideration, weight of your car, 60' times and such and if you aren't running something impressive already on your current combination then upgrading to another turbo isn't going to fix anyone's mistakes (well not always, could have a POS turbo combo holding you back).
The cars that have run 9.5's weigh about 2650 with no driver. Project White weighed in at about 3070 without driver. That's 400+ pounds, much of which is in tire/wheel/brake. Given that information Project White should run 9.90-10.1 or so. Until it runs those times I see no sense in changing the turbo on it.
Besides, I think Kevin's just enjoying the hell out of the car to be honest. I haven't heard mention of any drag racing plans with it. Honestly, that was one of the best cars we've ever built, loved that one.
I sell parts, everybody knows that and some will have you believe selling parts is a "crime". I don't feel the need to jump on every next biggest and best thing that comes along though and neither should anyone else.
The Red has already been proven to go 9.50's at 145 in race cars, take your combination into consideration, weight of your car, 60' times and such and if you aren't running something impressive already on your current combination then upgrading to another turbo isn't going to fix anyone's mistakes (well not always, could have a POS turbo combo holding you back).
The cars that have run 9.5's weigh about 2650 with no driver. Project White weighed in at about 3070 without driver. That's 400+ pounds, much of which is in tire/wheel/brake. Given that information Project White should run 9.90-10.1 or so. Until it runs those times I see no sense in changing the turbo on it.
Besides, I think Kevin's just enjoying the hell out of the car to be honest. I haven't heard mention of any drag racing plans with it. Honestly, that was one of the best cars we've ever built, loved that one.