A2 turbo kit
ROCK POST From another thread in response to Crypto regarding how great A2 is...........
You can trust who you want but come on. I got nothing against A2 or Phillip. I have now idea who he is. But you keep measuring this one guy with a maniifold and a box of parts against our turbo kit......... They have not even turboed a Lancer. You mean half the turbo kit for half the price. Also it is the hard part of the turbo kit that is missing too! We supply the hard part including engine management all piping and 30 pages of install instructions.The part you get from A2 is the part that is made of turbo parts off the shelf with the exception of the turbo manifold. You have inspired me though. I will have my turbo parts webpage up by the end of the Thanksgiving Weekend. I will match everything sold as a kit by them (exactly) for cheaper. Then I will do as they do and just say " yea expect a 100 w.h.p..... all you gotta do is get emanage, la,la,la, blah, blah... .you know then it is is done! That is sad, irresponsible and transparent that you do not care about anybody on these boards. What you do care about is messing with RRM. That is a pathetic display of your true intentions.
This is clear to us and many other now! Word is gonna spread too!
It won't be long before everyone catches on to the players, their PMing BS and poor ethics. You can't mention anything you have for sale without chiming in on it costing less. ALL of IT IS CHEAPER Because you get WAY LESS and therefore worth LESS to the customer. That is why it costs LESS!!!!!!!!!! Wake up dude. SHAME ON YOU!
THis is a post from another Thread where RRM is attacked again.
This needs to stay up for t he sake of the Lancer community who is being lied to and mislead by a small group of folks on this forum. Leave it up then emembers can decide for themselves. They will decide with their wallets I susppose and that is fine. Just make sure they are presented with both sides since I will not go and PM individuals to try to win business by bashing another vendor. Put it out in the open!
ROAD/RACE
You can trust who you want but come on. I got nothing against A2 or Phillip. I have now idea who he is. But you keep measuring this one guy with a maniifold and a box of parts against our turbo kit......... They have not even turboed a Lancer. You mean half the turbo kit for half the price. Also it is the hard part of the turbo kit that is missing too! We supply the hard part including engine management all piping and 30 pages of install instructions.The part you get from A2 is the part that is made of turbo parts off the shelf with the exception of the turbo manifold. You have inspired me though. I will have my turbo parts webpage up by the end of the Thanksgiving Weekend. I will match everything sold as a kit by them (exactly) for cheaper. Then I will do as they do and just say " yea expect a 100 w.h.p..... all you gotta do is get emanage, la,la,la, blah, blah... .you know then it is is done! That is sad, irresponsible and transparent that you do not care about anybody on these boards. What you do care about is messing with RRM. That is a pathetic display of your true intentions.
This is clear to us and many other now! Word is gonna spread too!It won't be long before everyone catches on to the players, their PMing BS and poor ethics. You can't mention anything you have for sale without chiming in on it costing less. ALL of IT IS CHEAPER Because you get WAY LESS and therefore worth LESS to the customer. That is why it costs LESS!!!!!!!!!! Wake up dude. SHAME ON YOU!
THis is a post from another Thread where RRM is attacked again.
This needs to stay up for t he sake of the Lancer community who is being lied to and mislead by a small group of folks on this forum. Leave it up then emembers can decide for themselves. They will decide with their wallets I susppose and that is fine. Just make sure they are presented with both sides since I will not go and PM individuals to try to win business by bashing another vendor. Put it out in the open!
ROAD/RACE
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like im havent been following heaps of whats going on between these companies and the "war" you guys are having, but like i think u should all stop coz its sorta sad and childish(btw this is coming form an immature 18yo ...)
ok u have turbo kits that are competing but no need to bash each other down and bad mouth the competition, just let you numbers and customers show how good(or bad) you provided your goods and services: ie. RPW has a kit (chow's) that seems to be going great and RRM has a kit that also seems to be going fine, so just let people do research and decide on the merits of the kits rather than this pointless banter ... its not a political election ...
ok u have turbo kits that are competing but no need to bash each other down and bad mouth the competition, just let you numbers and customers show how good(or bad) you provided your goods and services: ie. RPW has a kit (chow's) that seems to be going great and RRM has a kit that also seems to be going fine, so just let people do research and decide on the merits of the kits rather than this pointless banter ... its not a political election ...
I would like to clarify, and I hope mods or someone chimes in
1. I dont advertise on these forums, I only answer tech questions. If you would like, go through my posts in my profile, I have not advertised anything.
2. I have not bashed rrms parts in anyway on these forums, I have actually gotten calls from people and I have said good stuff about there kits, how they use the ball bearing turbo, its good for spool up, but the reason why I choose the stuff I choose its for a reason.
3. I have not pmed people "in the dark", if people pm me, I answer it trulthfully as far as I can, as for not turboing a lancer, check out the pics on our site, its a turboed lancer
4. I have been working with dsm/mirage/lancers for some time 6+years, so Im not a newb by any means (I heard that come up)
5. I dont want a war between us, I support a bigger market for the mitsu community, im actually heading in a more open market (toyota/new honda etc..)
6. I am scheduled for some tuning @ cft later this month for dyno maps.
7. The part where we were said to sell crap off shelves, is also not true, we make/do most of our work hence all of our new tools etc...
8. How we plan on making lots of power, 10 psi on a 16g is more than 10 psi on a t28 and also our kits are going to utilize a equal lenght manifold with an oversized o2 housing.
9. We understand about the fuel management problem and we are working to fix it, also a fuel return conversion would be a good option for this, a few other sites sell them as well.
10. We just do this part time, so we do not rigurously advertise our stuff, because we dont want to get huge like rrm, we are regular people with a 9-5 job, well more like 6pm-4am haha.
11. as for junk products, no one has been unhappy with our products, the only thing we are hearing is shipping this week, as its the holidays and shipping times has been greatly slowed, but not at our bad, the shipping companys.
12. Were not here to "take over" the competion, were just trying to expand the market, and if anyone is going to bash us because of that, im sorry but it happens.
Mods- if theres anything you want to delete you can, im just trying to settle things, I dont have a grudge against anyone here, including rock. Heck im barely on here, I usually just answer pms and just tech questions thats it.
Best regards,
Phillip Rench
1. I dont advertise on these forums, I only answer tech questions. If you would like, go through my posts in my profile, I have not advertised anything.
2. I have not bashed rrms parts in anyway on these forums, I have actually gotten calls from people and I have said good stuff about there kits, how they use the ball bearing turbo, its good for spool up, but the reason why I choose the stuff I choose its for a reason.
3. I have not pmed people "in the dark", if people pm me, I answer it trulthfully as far as I can, as for not turboing a lancer, check out the pics on our site, its a turboed lancer
4. I have been working with dsm/mirage/lancers for some time 6+years, so Im not a newb by any means (I heard that come up)
5. I dont want a war between us, I support a bigger market for the mitsu community, im actually heading in a more open market (toyota/new honda etc..)
6. I am scheduled for some tuning @ cft later this month for dyno maps.
7. The part where we were said to sell crap off shelves, is also not true, we make/do most of our work hence all of our new tools etc...
8. How we plan on making lots of power, 10 psi on a 16g is more than 10 psi on a t28 and also our kits are going to utilize a equal lenght manifold with an oversized o2 housing.
9. We understand about the fuel management problem and we are working to fix it, also a fuel return conversion would be a good option for this, a few other sites sell them as well.
10. We just do this part time, so we do not rigurously advertise our stuff, because we dont want to get huge like rrm, we are regular people with a 9-5 job, well more like 6pm-4am haha.
11. as for junk products, no one has been unhappy with our products, the only thing we are hearing is shipping this week, as its the holidays and shipping times has been greatly slowed, but not at our bad, the shipping companys.
12. Were not here to "take over" the competion, were just trying to expand the market, and if anyone is going to bash us because of that, im sorry but it happens.
Mods- if theres anything you want to delete you can, im just trying to settle things, I dont have a grudge against anyone here, including rock. Heck im barely on here, I usually just answer pms and just tech questions thats it.
Best regards,
Phillip Rench
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prench, i wasnt having a go at you, or anyone else for that matter, im just saying i know you are all in competition but yous shouldnt fight, you should (even though u can't - collusion)work together to make greater and cheapr parts for the lancer community
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i think this has gotten out of hand, i posted the e-mail that was sent to me, i e-mailed him on his site to ask questions about his product, i came along and noticed the thread A-2 Turbo, so i went to the site to check it out, i e-mailed him cause their was no write up about the turbokit on the site, just stated 2800.00 for turbo kit, released nov 23, the price cought my eye so i e-mailed him, i just posted the e-mail cause the thread was posted A-2 turbokit, and thought i'd share my findings, what i mean't about saving my penny for another year for the RRM kit, was i would like a kit that i can just bolt on, don't have to be looking for missing parts, i'm sure A-2 will be coming out with some good parts in the future is they already have not, and RRM will be releasing some other crazy sh@t like they always do, but this thread has just got tottaly out of hand,
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