I imagine you haven't seen anything from Ripp Mods here because they threw their hands up and said "never again" after the non-stop inane attacks on them from certain members. Yeah, the same thing you now see happening to hackish.

I only comment on this because these are vendors trying to be honest and open and they get slagged by others who don't actually have anything to sell themselves. I want to be able to continue to read and also conduct respectful intelligent dialogue with them on forums like this, not have them chased away by incoherent ninnies. Frustrating the crap out of honest people trying their best to earn a tough living, and so making them leave here forever, doesn't make you the winner, it simply means we don't deserve their efforts anymore.

 

I don't know what box they were using, but hackish, split second, and performance motor research (on top of Chris DeWinnar from perfect power) have all said that you can't use the technology of the SMT units with the RA effectively for short term or long term. Chris said forget about it, but split second recommended what they referred to as a "half-assed" method, IIRC I posted it in the SMT-6 thread (advanced forum)



glad you know what you're talking about Michael (hackish) is just like any other vendor on here as far as I'm concerned(except he's not a vendor ), and if he wants to make all these claims I just want him to back it up or show us. RRM has done more than that in the past and if you are having trouble reading between the lines then you need to go back and re-read who is bashing who here. the only person speaking negatively on anyone is hackish, and he's referring to those companies who have working turbo kits and NA piggybacks out in the market when he is talking about "other kits/solutions etc." I've pressed for information, and given facts when I see what he is trying to say may conflict with information I have (and others, if you have read this thread.) yeah, I've got a post or two defending myself, but I never attacked anyone with negative comments about their work: I've merely suggested new or alternative things and asked for information to help us ALL understand this car. If you don't like it, too bad and **** off

all in all I think I've more than made my point: hackish is making very blatant and obvious claims that what he is working on will make what's on the market look like dog terds when he's done testing. he's provided you with no real evidence aside from a ton of technical jargon (some of which suggests hackish has a MUCH better shop than most companies we've dealt with on here so far) and on top of all that has told you his solution will not be even close to reasonable in price: "It works and works correctly it just won't be a $500 fix." I'm all for better products, and now I really am getting tired of saying I wish Michael and his crew the best on the RA, but I'm not willing to jump on this wagon until I see some real hard evidence that this is better (not just working, but better) than what's out there by a whole lot. RRM sells the base NA piggy for ~500 (not even going to look it up, I know it's less than 500) and even if everything Michael is saying is correct will work just fine with regular maintenance. I'm not saying that's the case, but it would seem to me if that's the worst case scenario I'd rather maintain a 500$ system than purchase a 1000$ system; you might as well have gone standalone(isn't that kind of where you're headed here anyway, not to mention isn't this (standalone haltechs) how RPW handled their turbo kit? also, isn't this (1000$) around what they were asking for a standalone unit for the RA?) you should spend less time worrying about what other members are typing about things and more time finding out for yourself what's the real deal man. I don't like to bash anyone who is helping, but I have been told more than once that Michael (rightfully so) is only going to help us but so much; he's trying to make money here, not friends.

I've spent so much time typing this because I'm getting ready to leave this horse alone. good luck Michael, I'm looking forward to seeing your final product. I hope it's everything you've promised and then some, because we need it at this point

 

haha, what a jumble of words. all well, fugit.

 

The reason this solution is so expensive is that it will require larger than stock fuel injectors, plugs, spacers, and a few other things. When I consider something a solution it has all the components included.

I don't think it's fair to say I'm on here to make money not friends. If you put $7500 in R&D time into a product would you give all the info you've learned and developed away? If I explain every part of the solution in minute detail then I may as well just distribute the R&D money I've spent to all my competitors. Hey anyone want a couple of grand?

I also don't think it's fair to say I'm walking around just calling other products out there dog turd - I explained what is out there and why they don't work properly. Someone can then use that info to make an informed decision and understand the risks of whatever they've got for management.

I do think it is fair to say that I've got the years of embedded development. I've had the contracts with major OEMs and I've got the experience to make this thing work. I've also got a shop that's set up for the R&D. Most performance shops do not have oscilloscopes, data aquisition boards, JTAG readers, programmers and all the hardware I have invested in.

I'm not trying to put down others who have less experience or no access to the proper tools to properly figure out the problem but let's face it you don't take your lawnmower to a diesel mechanic.

Short of soldering up a unit and shipping it to you to prove that it works I don't know what sort of backup you want. I have a prototype that works and the fuel trims appear stable and there are no CELs.

When it goes into production I'll look at signing up and selling the product as a vendor. Right now I'm not offering anything for sale - instead many people kept asking me what I was doing so I decided to keep everyone up to date.

-Michael

 

any news hackish.....i might just be your first customer

 

Sorry Jess I will be the first as I am local you can be second.....LOL...

 

I know this thread got quite heated...but I'm wondering something, so time to bring her back from the dead...

hackish, you mentioned in your first couple of posts that the offerings from Split Second were not able to control the larger injectors and not able to fix the O2 problem. Were your efforts directed toward their PSC1 (the same unit RRM uses for their N/A piggyback)?

SplitSecond has a different, supplemental product I'm trying to look into, the ESC1. Through working with my local shop and their conversations with Split Second, they're thinking this might be a good bet. The ESC1 has a built in MAP sensor that activates a modifyer on the car's narrowband O2 sensor, only once (i.e.) 1psi of boost is registered.

In the case of RRM's setup, IIRC, the 5th injector activates incidentally, and is not always active. The testing of the RA's O2 routine you were doing, you mentioned that there are a few different steps the ECU tries to make sure the sensors are working appropriately. In the case of RRM's 5th injector or even the ESC1 working in an incidental manner as opposed to continually, would that leave the stock ECU enough "wiggle room" to do its O2 routine that wouldn't throw CEL (obviously this would be needed in conjunction with an appropriate injector controller, etc.)?

Or to anyone reading...has anyone tried this particular unit, the ESC1?

 

I believe this thread will end to this conclusion:
1- Either you go standalone (because to be honest our stock ECU is just too hard to trick/cheat)
2- Or you finally crack the ECU code and start doing re-flashes which might be the BEST option for US.

There is just TOO many complications with this stock ECU. I know that our 2.4lt MIVEC engine has a lot of potential and I can say that with a reflash including more agressive timing and fuel maps and some mods 20+ WHP are easily achievable. The problem again comes from the low number of RA's produced.

 

Personally I think we need a "crack the RA ecu fund" that everyone can contribute to, then we pay someone to do it so we aren't sitting around waiting for someone to hand out freebies because in all honesty, I seriously doubt our ecu is gonna get cracked soon especially with our generation RA no longer being in production.

 

no updates !!! I was expecting this.

 

 

any news hackish?????????

 

all your login are belong to us.

another member recently contacted me that was getting helped by him, apparently he has dropped off the earth I'll probably be following him shortly though, so I can't blame him.

 

I know Hackish is working on a solution as he has my car for testing, there has been some good progress but nothing to brag about just yet.

 

Sorry for not keeping people up to date. This summer has been insanely busy. I have something that works but it needs more time to be ready for sale. Currently it is a couple of piggybacks tied together because I haven't finished writing the injector control routines.

There are a lot of hurtles from finding an attractive source for aluminum extrusions to writing detailed install instructions and completing the tuning software. I'm doing most of this stuff in my off hours and evenings when the lady isn't home. I have a second job as well on weekends so there isn't a lot of time to work on this. As soon as the skydiving season is over (another month or so) I will have more time.

-Michael