Good idea Resurrected. I didnt even think about that. Maybe I'll do a thread detailing the tear down. Or as much of the tear down as I do. Im hoping not to remove the pistons or crank. Then rebuilding it will be its own thing since its not going back to stock. We'll see how it plays out.

Anyway. I had someone come look at the Eclipse last night. He seemed very interested. Said he would come back Saturday to pick up the notarized title and buy it off of me. So before he got there I moved around the cars. White RA is now in the back yard ready to roll into the garage when the time comes. Green RA is out of the garage and behind it for now. And the Eclipse is back in the driveway waiting to hopefully make a trip to its new home.

I think I decided last night that Im going to swap a few of the better interior bits from the Green RA into the white RA at some point. Also I wanna take the Hella super tones off of it and clean them up. Hopefully they are still good.

On a side note. Has anyone ever thought about relocating the APPS? I always thought it was in a weird place. I wonder if there would be room to move it either closer to the firewall and shorten the cable. Or if it would be at all possible to tuck it under the dash somewhere... I havent really looked yet just thought about it last night.

 

Sold the Eclipse today! Down to only the two RAs now. Ill be ordering parts for the engine build this week. I have a grocery list of parts I want around here somewhere! Lol

 

Pulled apart the engine and tranny tonight. And finally got my garage cleaned up. going to have to remove my clutch and flywheel to get it on the stand. I guess that will be the start of my tear down thread.

 

less talking, more pictures!

 

^^ ill get ya some in 2 weeks...lol

 

Here it is!



You can see in the bottom left picture. There is an arc shaped line. Looks like something was or has made contact with the bell housing there. I'll also get some pics of the clutch and flywheel tonight. Its a Clutch Master piece. Im wondering if I should go ahead and put a fresh one on when rebuilding. And holy crap that flywheel is heavier than I expected! lol Any one have any experience with that Fidanza 8lb flywheel, or experience lightening the factory one? Just out of curiosity.

I guess in the next day or two I will start documenting the tear down. I setup a computer in my garage so I can type it up as I go instead of trying to recall things later. I need to find a decent camera too. My phone takes good pics, but I am usually too shaky to get good details. Might have to borrow my wife's little Nikon.

 

Soaked it in some PB blaster, and WD40 for a few days. Also used some acid to eat way most of the chunks of rust, there is still a bit of surface rust, but everything is MUCH cleaner than it was.

Sorting out a camera to use when documenting now. Hopefully tonight I'll start the tear down documentation. Going to follow the FSM as best I can.

Also on the hunt for a new cylinder head shop. The one I used before is now closed which bums me out quite a bit because the owner was a really nice guy, and really helpful. He was also really open minded and willing to talk about outside of the box ideas. Unlike a lot of older mechanic guys I talk to who are all stiff necked and set in their ways... Oh well something will turn up im sure!

 

Alright. So you may already know that I decided to skip out on turboing the car right off the bat during the rebuild. I did however throw everything I had laying around into the motor so that it is ready for boost.

I want to continue the turbo build but I ran into several problems when I was mocking everything up. Firstly my Evo VIII turbo with the 10.5 hotside is just too big. Hanging the turbo in the usual position even with the radiator out of the bay the wastegate actuator still touched the AC condenser. Also the Evo injectors I assumed would be plug and play are not.

So because of this three very important parts of the build are useless at the moment. Turbo is too big, therefore i never made the manifold, and the injectors dont plug and play.

Good news was that the intercooler bolted right in. The pipes all fit and bolt on, with only some minor modification to the splash guards and adding a bolt hole to the battery brace, then I'd need to find a new home for the radiator overflow tank.

So here is where I am and what I need to sort out before I go any further.

-Turbo
-Manifold
-Injectors
-Overflow Relocation
-Turbo-back exhaust

I thought about trying the rear mounted turbo, however I found that the oil pump to send oil back to the engine can be a bit expensive, and you loose 1 psi of boost for every foot of pipe. So I feel like on a 4 cylinder it would probably be pretty laggy. Which might be fine because I feel like the only place Im really itching for more power is above 4500 rpms anyway... But Im still debating. I was imagining that if I used a 2" pipe all the way back to the turbo, then a small diameter pipe similar in size to the pipe that comes directly off of the compressor side then i could help fight the lag a bit. Id probably also have to switch to an external wastegate. But then comes in the thoughts of how vulnerable the turbo would be mounted back there. Ive done a lot a research on it at this point, and havent heard anyone who has done it mention any problems. But its still a fear I have.

But back to mounting the turbo in the usual location Ive been giving some thought to what I could possibly do to make it work. Ive thought about a top mounted turbo so that I'd have a bit more space instead of dealing with the narrow gap between the starter and the radiator fans. But then that introduces having to clock the turbo (which is doable you just have to grind down some alignment pins) then fab a custom O2 housing instead of using the one I already have. I also thought about just going with a smaller turbo and maybe using an external wastegate if it helps keep the actuator from interfering with anything.

IDK im all over the place at this point. Any thoughts you experienced guys have? I'd be glad to listen.

 

how big is this turbo? you still haven't shown me pictures...if it see it, I might be able to give you some ideas...I wouldn't go any smaller on the compressor, but even if you decided to go to a different type of turbo, I would try to get as big a compressor as will fit...the DSM 16g is pretty small, but that's why I picked it...cause an Evo III or newer 68HTA compressor will fit in the same space as the 14b I built the kit around...you can fit a larger compressor housing than I have if you designed the manifold like hackish did on the kit Brent's car had.

 

Buy the manifold from RPW and the compatible turbo, then the slim fans that are required..voila, problems solved! http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/index.php...chk=1&Itemid=1

 

I really like that manifold, but I'm confident I could make my own very similar to that, I just need to make a jig for my existing manifold, and remake a tubular type with a collector, and the flanges will be in the same spot so everything should still fit as it does, but I may redesign it for a larger turbo...at some point I will rework parts of my turbo kit, for a more efficient system, and cleaner look...


I know it can be done, cause the 2.0L lancer guys have done it...placement will be key, I just don't have any idea what you're dealing with until I see it...

 

Well these are the only pics I have of the turbo right now. If I can remember I'll take some of the full assembly when I get a chance. But these pics have just the turbo itself not the O2 housing and actuator.

 

the compressor housing definitely looks bigger than a DSM 16g...how big is the O2 housing? and from head flange to where the turbo sticks out, what is that distance?...also how much could the runners be reduced toward the head flange?...potentially you could change the angle of the outlet flange as well...

 

May have found a way to to make my turbo fit. Waiting on my welder to take a look at it to see if he can pull it off. Simplest way would be a log manifold I believe. But we'll see once he takes a look at it.

Best way I can describe it is: instead of hanging the turbo off the bottom of the manifold like the evo, or mounting it above the manifold like a top mount. Imagine if it hung right off the front. This keeps all that size I was having to deal with vertically between the engine and radiator instead of horizontally.

 

do you mean turning the turbo sideways? sorry, I can't visualize what you're talking about...