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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 09:37 AM
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Which part to get?

So now that I have some money saved up I was thinking of purchasing a new part for my car. My choices are:

RRM Cam, Piggyback, or P/P Intake Manifold

My mods are in my sig. and I was just wondering what you guys think would be the best mod to get next for my car. I know the piggyback is definitely a must but I'm debating on whether or not to get it before or after the other 2 so I can get a tune all at once. What are you guys' take on which mod I should pick up?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 10:19 AM
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Of those three, I'd lean hardest toward the cam. That being said, does the timing box take full advantage/work in conjunction with the timing box?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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I think what BlackRaven meant was, does the Piggy take full advantage/work in conjunction with the timing box?

I'd like to know as well if anyone has had any issues with them working together. I'm considering getting the timing box, but I don't want to spend the cash if they don't play nice together as I'm getting the Piggy later on.

In my opinion Raikiri, I would probably get the P/P Manifold first. Being that you have an auto trans, the throttle response should be a lot better.

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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Quick question... when adding the Intake Manifold do I need to upgrade my fuel rail as well?

Before I was told by a friend that when adding the IM will cause my car to use more fuel in order to balance out with the increased air thats coming in. If i dont it'll lean out or something?
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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You dont need to upgrade the fuel rail. You can use your stock one.

Considering your mods, i would say get the piggyback, since that will really bring out the potential in your air flow mods. But the cam is a VERY close 2nd, because of the huge amount of low end torque it gives you. The p&p intake manifold is something to do down the line. To really let you motor breathe in all the extra air its taking.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart_on_LSD
You dont need to upgrade the fuel rail. You can use your stock one.

Considering your mods, i would say get the piggyback, since that will really bring out the potential in your air flow mods. But the cam is a VERY close 2nd, because of the huge amount of low end torque it gives you. The p&p intake manifold is something to do down the line. To really let you motor breathe in all the extra air its taking.
I have to agree for the most part. I would say PIGGY because you wont see much of anything without proper tuning. After the piggy then intake and cam. With the piggy you will be able to get soooo much more out of your motor. Just some thought.
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Old Jun 9, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by silversleeper
I would say PIGGY because you wont see much of anything without proper tuning. .
Are you saying that even if i get the piggy i wouldn't see much of an increase without a tune? Its like $230 to get my car tuned so Im trying to go to the tuning shop as few times as possible.

But you guys think I won't see much of a difference with the IM w/o the piggyback?
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 03:49 AM
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every mod you do to your car, to get the most out of that mod, you should tune your car. Every mod changes something on your car when you put the mod on. I am just saying, if your going to get the intake and cam, you should get the piggy first sooo you can tune it to those mods. Yes you will see some increase in power ect, but you wont see as much as if you had the piggy to tune the car with the mods. Basically you wont be getting the full potential out of the mod till you tune your car period. If your worried about money then buy everything, have it all wating, then install it all and then take your car to get it tuned, then you don't have to worry about tuning it all the time.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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alright then this is what i've decided to do then... piggy then intake then cam while getting the tune after the cam...hopefully i'll have alll this done by the end of the year thanks for your input guys!
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