" i think its the clocks " Sorry can't contain myself.......Maybe it those spiral maxs.....

 

I have to disagree- it's not all that time consuming and I rather enjoy it. I can do a G93 or G94 IM in about 3-1/2 to 4 hours plus cleaning it out.
You mostly need a die grinder, speed controller, non-ferrous burs and sanding rolls. Total cost for tools should be less than $100 (harbor freight is a good place to start) and the first time you'll want to get really slow, so expect 6 hours.

Look in the US Lancer threads for info about porting IMs.... I'm not feeling like typing all of that yet again

 

The reason I say that is because 9 out of ten people on the boards have no idea how to do stuff like that. As far as time consuming, it depends on your experience and whether or not you know what the heck your doing. You seem like you would know what you are doing, and it takes you 4 hours. Think of how long it would take somebody who has no idea what they are doing. But mainly what i was trying to get at was putting a bigger TB on an intake manifold not made to handle that extra air is not going to do you much good, if any at all.

 

Take the Spiralmax out!! These things just block air. Think about it, You're putting things in the air intake path. And you have 3 of them in there? I'm surprised any air can even get to your engine.
On the slow times, yea it's probably your altitude. I used to live at high altitude (5000') and noticed a big difference in power when I moved down to near sea level. Can also be your tires. Ya lose a lot of time if you're spinning at launch. What are your 60' times?

 

ugh yea, those things wont do you any good. also, the new rotors. where did you get them? how much do they weigh compared to the stock ones? if you added 5lbs to each fo the front wheels, you may have introduced a significant drivetran loss. probably wont be THAT noticable, but just another thought. however, the inverse is also true if they are actually lighter

 

A spiralmax does just about as much good as this, http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...966412526&rd=1

 

Did you look at the feedback it's so funny.....

 

I agree that better than 90% of folks don't know how to do this. Neither did I until I read a bunch of stuff and then just did it.... ok, so that will eliminate about 95% of the EvoM users- because given the number of repeat threads, reposts, and reanswers to questions (i.e. didn't bother to read the thread, posts "new" idea that's alrady been propsed) that 95% doesn't like to read.

And you're somewhat right on the bigger TB.... but then will a larger IM be able to actually suck more air from the stock size TB? Chicken and egg argument... If the G69 is designed like the G94 (bunched runners of different lengths), then TB upgrade probably wouldn't do any good. If the G69 is like the G63 (straighter, more even lenghts, spread across the plenum), then TB will help some. I can't say which is better for the first mod between the two, because I did the manifold in my shop- I sent my TB out and consequently that went on 2nd. It was a local shop and no, I can't recommend them (excellent work, price was great, but it took EIGHT WEEKS!!!)

And again, for a first time job, expect about 6 hours. That's not very long, really. My first head port/valve lap took a combined total of nearly 20 hours. So I guess it's just perspective....