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Old May 30, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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I'd next try contacting the reqional rep, and if that gets no where talk to a lawyer.

If's the cars been damaged and sold as new then it sounds fraud, and you should be able to do something about it.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer


I didn't realize every American had responded to this thread to prove anything. He's already been back to talk, now it is time to take it to the next level. It might not have to go to court. All I said was have his lawyer call their lawyer and things could very easily be settled out of court. Reading comprehensions ownz you.
easy there fella, no need to get in an uproar, i was mainly pointing out the problem with taking this to court here in canada, not trying to insult you. see there is a stereotype here in canada about amaricans always wanting to sue eathother and big corperations,which isnt really fiesable here in canada for the perviously stated reason, dont take this the wrong way, my wife is an american, i have no hate for you guys seriously. so yeah sorry for any underserved offense EH!!

oh and as for reading comprehension, i cant spell and have bad grammer, but i can assure you that my "reading comprehension" far outways yourown. that said, God Bless and Goodnight

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Old May 30, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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easy there fella, no need to get in an uproar, i was mainly pointing out the problem with taking this to court here in canada, not trying to insult you. see there is a stereotype here in canada about amaricans always wanting to sue eathother and big corperations,which isnt really fiesable here in canada for the perviously stated reason, dont take this the wrong way, my wife is an american, i have no hate for you guys seriously.
Right. Let's talk about stereotypes, but not to offend any one.

I am against frivolous lawsuits, this isn't one of them. In America you run the same risk if you sue someone or some entitiy because they have every right to counter sue you back for their expenses and then some, so it isn't unheard of. You haven't presented any sort of revelation to us.

but i can assure you that my "reading comprehension" far outways yourown.
Whatever, just like you can assure all of us that we have proven your stereotypes for Americans. Ummm hmm. Sure.
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Old May 30, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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alright i see that i have to bow down to your superior intellect!! in canada its not a counter sue, it happens automaticaly, you lose you pay, garenteed, thats the real issue to this thread, as for stereotypes, thats dead a buried, you want to dig it up again, go for it, im sure i can verify so about canadians if youd like

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Old May 30, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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Oh its supposed to be "dead and buried", because you want to back up now that you realize what it was a dumb thing to say to begin with. I could care less how many Canadiens you can come up with that agree to your lame sterotypical view of Americans.

The real issue is what he should do to get compensated, not wether nor not he'll have to pay someone's legal fees.

Originally Posted by FAV
good luck in this battle, but ive heard that toms very stingy, although hes ever only treated me fairly.
You posted you know (of) the owner and have done business with him, like that matters. It doesn't matter if he is stingy or has treated you fairly, it doesn't excuse him from being responsible for what goes on at his dealership. You think he shouldn't contact a lawyer after being blown off trying to work things out by talking to the dealer. You've already presented your opinion that contacting a lawer and/or threatening with legal action is over reacting. Fine. All that other BS was unnecessary.

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Old May 30, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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lol from somedude's problem with a dealership it suddenly strays to people arguing over the net... lol... and it will still go on after this post lol....
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Old May 31, 2006 | 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by otter
It's iffy if I can make it. I'm already taking this weekend off work to go to the Winged Warrior event in Indy. Taking another weekend off might be pushing it with work, and being away from home for another full day for some car thing might be pushing it with the lady.

Well it's an open invite.

If you can cool, if not I'll make sure I post lots of pics to show you what you missed

Later

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Old May 31, 2006 | 03:51 AM
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I would contact whatever government department that regulates dealers and repair shops, like my state's "Dept of Motor Vehicles". They should have a way for you to file complaints against dealers that are "misbehaving" Dealers don't like the idea of losing their business licenses!
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Old May 31, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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[QUOTE=GPTourer]You think he shouldn't contact a lawyer after being blown off trying to work things out by talking to the dealer. You've already presented your opinion that contacting a lawer and/or threatening with legal action is over reacting. Fine. All that other BS was unnecessary.[QUOTE]


[QUOTE=FAV] i'd say that bring'in to the lawyers and tryin to scare Tom (the owner of that perticular dealership) into givin you more is your best choice[QUOTE]

obviously reading ownz you GP, as for the rest being a waste of time, explaining why not to take it to court seems like a good thing to explain. ive already appologized for the stereotype thing so other then that your anger is your own. this thread gone alittle with petty bickering lets end it here


Peace- FAV
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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This is fraud, its decieving someone in order to gain a profit. you could easily take this to court, and im sure a lawyer would agree.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FAV
[with petty bickering lets end it here
Peace- FAV
Stop with the innocent victim BS. Only one person in this thread suggested filing an actual lawsuit in this thread "mtags24"
Originally Posted by mtags24
File a claim (lawsuit) against them and i bet you they settle out of court.
...before you let off with your "all you Americans" comment. You are the one who is out of line and needs to read better before making stupid comments, apology or not.

Now it ends. Peace.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by GPTourer
That's not true. A dealer has what is called a floorplan. They pay interest on that floorplan, but they don't have to buy the car completely, its like you or I taking out a loan on one car, they take out a loan on a bunch of cars. So if you want to get technical, no a dealer doesn't own every car outright, but if the car was damaged after delivery, by a dealer employee, and they had it fixed, they are the ones liable and it is their responsibility to disclose that to the customer.

If the car was damaged during shipping and Mitsubishi fixed it, it would be noted on the invoice. My guess is this one wasn't.

If a car sits around on a lot a long time, the amount interest the dealer pays starts edging up, that's why their is a big incentive to move old units. They can dealer trade to another dealer, yes, but that is just moving around collateral between loans/floorplans. Another dealer doesn't have to accept an old car. They don't offer any relief just because a dealer has had it a long time, at least not among Mitsubishi dealers.
What did I say

I said they dont own the cars period. Yes they do pay interest on them after a period of having them on the lots which is a month or so. Mitsu still responsible because they trust that dealer to carry their brand name thats it.
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Old May 31, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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What did I say?
What you said and what I said were two different things. This is what you said...

Originally Posted by Az3ar
New cars are not sold to the dealer at any given point.
Which is wrong. Once the car's are transferred to the dealer and put on their floorplan, the MSO's are put in that dealers name too and they go in that dealer's very safe place. An MSO (Manufacturer's Statement of Origen) is like a birth certificate for a car, before any title is issued.

I said they dont own the cars period.
Then anybody that has a loan on a car, doesn't own it period. But that's not how it is. Even though the title of my car belongs to a bank, I am the registered owner, I am responsible to insure it and responsible for how it is used. So it is that dealer's name that is on the floorplan loan and it is his respobilitiy to disclose damage when he/she resells that car. You are arguing semantics. But money does change hands when a car is delivered to a dealer from a manufacturer. That is fact.

Mitsu still responsible because they trust that dealer to carry their brand name thats it.
It is going to come out of the dealer's pockets to buy that car back and/or replace it, not Mitsubishi's. They are going to pressure that dealer to do right, but in the end it is the dealer who is responsible and it is the dealer who will be sued if this ever goes to court, not the manufacturer.

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