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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Lightbulb Idea!

So I was looking at cooling systems that are available for computers to keep your computer far cooler then a fan ever would and they have ones that are on the Mach3 computers that are pretty much mini AC's. They work similar to the way our refridge stays cool. Those have been around for awhile now. What I was thinking was this...

What if someone got one of the small mach3 desktop AC's to work inside a car? Now think this... what if someone got a small mach3 desktop AC to be placed inside the piping of an intake? It says that it puts out temps of -30c Can you imagine if your intake was able to breathe in air that cold? I've heard of ice packs inside the piping of your intake and things like that. But nothing can compare to -30c With that said... let's talk about this That would be like running NOS without having NOS.

Here's what the Mach3 AC looks like. And for those of you who don't know about them.. they're VERY small. They could fit into the piping of intakes with a little work and a well thought out plan
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 07:43 AM
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http://www.go-l.com/desktops/machl38/cooling/index.htm

There's the website for all the info on how the cooling system works etc.

Call me stupid, someday you might see something like this out there. They're probably already around and if they are then I'm too late lol
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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I think you'd have a problem with volume of air. I'm sure that cooler probably only puts out a few cfm at that rated temperature. Our engines suck in quite a bit of air. If you could get the right flow out of it though, I'm sure you'd see hp gains, it just fundamentally makes sense. This winter I saw regular -10 to -20+ deg F weather. It definately provided some extra kick and my car was boosting in the 22-25 # range with no boost controller (Stock)
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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Ummmm... the picture you have in your post is actually the condenser, which is ment to cool off the condensed liquid refrigerante, not cool off the air, if you put that part in the intake you would heat up the air. You would need to keep that part as well as the rest of the system out of the intake; except the small evaporator which is what gets cold, I would think you would want to a slightly lager evap though, the one they have is about the size of a saltine cracker, I think a moon pie size raditor style would be optimal; but it would restrict air flow a bit. Good Idea ; though it needs a bit of refinement still.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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I had the idea, But I'll never be the one to make it work. That's for someone else to do lol
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:34 AM
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OK, what if the little mini AC thing wasnt placed entirely inside the intake tube, but just outside it with a little "dump tube" to the intake tube for the cool charged air to vent into. That way you wont restrict air flow in the intake and it will still charge the air before it hits the throttle body.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:36 AM
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Originally posted by mitsumichael7
OK, what if the little mini AC thing wasnt placed entirely inside the intake tube, but just outside it with a little "dump tube" to the intake tube for the cool charged air to vent into. That way you wont restrict air flow in the intake and it will still charge the air before it hits the throttle body.
Yeah that's what I was saying to my friend when we were talking about it. That way the piping can let in air without the restriction of the AC.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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OK, here is my stupid Idea. Install a diesel truck turbo instead of a normal one. they spool up really fast almost immeditaly and keep going strong. diesels don't turn as high a rpm so I'm sure it will taper off some at top end, but I know that if it can push enough air for a 5.9 liter it can do it for a 2.4 even if it's slowing down. I'm sure that there is a lot to over come with this idea, but I like it. It's about $1000 for a cummings turbo, then other parts, so it's probably not cheaper than a regular after market turbo, but I think it would produce a interesting power band. Maybe I'm wrong though.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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OK, here is my stupid Idea. Install a diesel truck turbo instead of a normal one. they spool up really fast almost immeditaly and keep going strong. diesels don't turn as high a rpm so I'm sure it will taper off some at top end, but I know that if it can push enough air for a 5.9 liter it can do it for a 2.4 even if it's slowing down. I'm sure that there is a lot to over come with this idea, but I like it. It's about $1000 for a cummings turbo, then other parts, so it's probably not cheaper than a regular after market turbo, but I think it would produce a interesting power band. Maybe I'm wrong though.

DUDE!!! YOU ARE TOTALLY RIGHT!!!...it is a stupid idea...lol.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Hey, I never claimed to be a turbo expert, in fact I've never worked with one; but at least I come up with ideas; even if 999 out of 1000 are crap that means one is good and thats better than zero. Regardless, at least tell me why it's so stupid, what is the reasion it won't work? And if you have a idea please do tell us.

As for your idea mitsulancer04, I think a intake that is double walled, aluminum inside pipe, good thermat plastic on the outside, caped at the ends with pipe runnig around the aluminum pipe then a cover like a distiller tube. see poorly drawen pics in the next two posts.

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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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here is one
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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here is the second.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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Hell yes! A photo to go along with the idea. Time to pantent (sp) this ****! lol
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 12:40 PM
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glad you like my crappy drawings. It think it would work though. Too bad I don't have the cash to do anything with it.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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why go through alll the trouble?...just get an IC and be done with it, hehe.

and hey, if you -30 deg. Celsius just come up here in the winter...but then you'll be beggin for a block heater, and watch as your gas mileage goes to **** b/c before you can drive you have to warm your car for 5-10min everyday...but hey, at least then the air getting sucked into your engine would be -30 to give to "great" performance...

...sorry, it's been a few hours since I could let out some sarcasm...


Really though, it "might" work, but I think it would be no more effective then your standard Intercooler...
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