Does anybody know if we'd be able to use this on our cars (MIVEC) or are we restricted to only the S-AFC.
Has anybody tried either of these??

 

I think turboPR has one on his but not to sure. I would think it would work with mivec aswell.

 

I want to hear from anybody that has used either in a N/A application

 

You are on the wrong board if you want to talk to V-AFC users. That model is specifically for Hondas.

 

it's supposed to work with MIVEC too, someone said before.

It's basically the same theory: Valve timing, but it kicks in low rather than high. So theoretically, it should work with some tuning.

 

i agree i was asking myself the same question. honda's vtec is variable valve timing and electronic lift or something like that. that's what mivec is also. vtec for hondas don't kick in till around 5700 where ours kicks in around 3000 or so. with proper tuning it should work good for you.

 

You are talking about a device that intercepts control signals from the ECU and fools the car/engine into doing something entirely different from its base programming, and you want to take it from one type of car to the other? A'pexi ended up revising it when the new K series came out because everthing changed, and you want to stick this on a Mitsubishi with no other reassurance then "someone said it would work?"

Good luck.

 

GPTourer - The reason why Apex'i had to revise the controller is because of the I-VTEC controls a few other things that the regular vtec does not. BUT, in theory, the module is designed to alter both a/f and valve timing whether it be honda or mitsu....I'm just trying to see if people have information on this. Thats all.

 

Actually if you look in the wiring manual on a VAFC it will work on the MIVEC engine. I know this because my buddy that has one showed me in his manual where it said for Mitsubishi with MIVEC.

 

Go with the E-manage. It's like a VAFC and SAFC all in one. Also the reason Hondas get the Vafc is to lower the RPM when the alternate cam profile switches in. If MIVEC swaps at 3k, im not sure you'd need to change it. Any RPM before 3k with the higher profile will only slow the car down.

 

I would agree with you on this, I think the engagement point of the MIVEC is just right. It engages at about 3500-3600 rpms. Any lower and your not helping yourself but hurting yourself. I turbopr is using the Greddy E-Manage and I think it's a better system all around, for the simple fact that it let's you control more thing's and monitor other thign's that the VAFC can't.

 

Emanage on a N/A car won't be worth the cost. But in regards to the mivec engagement point, your right. I probably would stick w/ just a AFC then. I actually was thinking initially of raising it or just seeing if anyone has played w/ the timing on our cars.

 

If you're going to be N/A just forget about it, it's a waste of time. Get a piggyback.

 

You won't be able to adjust timing with a S-AFC(2). You'll need some sort of standalone or reflash to affect that. Unless you have done something major to the engine (like forced induction or rasing the compression ratio with new pistons) I think a S-AFC(2) or standalone would be a waste of money.

 

BTW, you can go to A'pexi's site and download the manuals for the V-AFC(2) in PDF format. The first has an addendum for wire diagrams that does not show any Mitsubishi vehicles mentioned. The second doesn't show any mention of the word "MIVEC" or "Mitsubishi" in the manual.