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Originally Posted by dklau33
Wow that's quick. The car hasn't even come out yet here in the states. Can we see pics of the actual kit? Any specs on the kit such as rotor diameter and thickness? What is the FMSI number for the front pads and rear pads? Will this kit fit under the stock wheels? If not are there any templates that are printable to test out?
Bump for my questions....
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Based on looking at the brakeman's website, you are looking at $2000 - $3000 for this kit.
Please correct me if I'm way off.
Please correct me if I'm way off.
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That's actually pretty damn good considering it is a 4 wheel kit. Anyways I would be in no rush to mod so I would just wait to see what other companies like Stoptech or AP Racing come up with first.
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Agreed.Originally Posted by dboz
Wow, if it is that much just get the GSR.
there is a reason always how they priced they model's...
If you think you will build an equal RA to the X, but cheaper, you are dreaming.
So that is why i dont understand why most of you guys pick the X as a goal to hit.
The RA will be RA no matter what, unless you will spend an awful lot of money on it.
If you got a RA , then try to build an awesome RA , not a X. For sure you can build a better car then the stock X also.
But i think better goal if you try to compete with other brands , example the WRX then the Mitsubishi. You will be better off that way.
Just an idea.
If you think you will build an equal RA to the X, but cheaper, you are dreaming.
So that is why i dont understand why most of you guys pick the X as a goal to hit.
The RA will be RA no matter what, unless you will spend an awful lot of money on it.
If you got a RA , then try to build an awesome RA , not a X. For sure you can build a better car then the stock X also.
But i think better goal if you try to compete with other brands , example the WRX then the Mitsubishi. You will be better off that way.
Just an idea.

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If you think you will build an equal RA to the X, but cheaper, you are dreaming.
So that is why i dont understand why most of you guys pick the X as a goal to hit.
The RA will be RA no matter what, unless you will spend an awful lot of money on it.
If you got a RA , then try to build an awesome RA , not a X. For sure you can build a better car then the stock X also.
But i think better goal if you try to compete with other brands , example the WRX then the Mitsubishi. You will be better off that way.
Just an idea.
Originally Posted by Robevo RS
there is a reason always how they priced they model's...If you think you will build an equal RA to the X, but cheaper, you are dreaming.
So that is why i dont understand why most of you guys pick the X as a goal to hit.
The RA will be RA no matter what, unless you will spend an awful lot of money on it.
If you got a RA , then try to build an awesome RA , not a X. For sure you can build a better car then the stock X also.
But i think better goal if you try to compete with other brands , example the WRX then the Mitsubishi. You will be better off that way.
Just an idea.
I think guys are just looking to upgrade the parts of the car that appear weak as far as initial testing. I don't think anyone is trying to build an X. The brakes take longer to stop than the GTS. The tires are also a weak area. The idea is to get the performance to be better than a GTS which in testing numbers bested the RA is several categories.
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Also keep in mind the brake issues Robi pointed out were under track conditions, and most of the road tests commenting on the braking issues were using the apparently horrible stock tires. Tires stop the car, not brakes. I think a set of nice 235 tires on the RA would dramatically increase the stopping capabilities in normal road test conditions with the stock brakes.
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The car stops from 70 in about 20-30 feet more than the Evo, even on crappy rubber. Is that really out of whack? Is it me, or is the GTS just blessed with way-above-average braking?Originally Posted by Mors
Also keep in mind the brake issues Robi pointed out were under track conditions, and most of the road tests commenting on the braking issues were using the apparently horrible stock tires. Tires stop the car, not brakes. I think a set of nice 235 tires on the RA would dramatically increase the stopping capabilities in normal road test conditions with the stock brakes.
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well if you have to stop before the railroad crossing, when the train is coming, that 20 feet is a serious issue...Originally Posted by hibby
The car stops from 70 in about 20-30 feet more than the Evo, even on crappy rubber. Is that really out of whack? Is it me, or is the GTS just blessed with way-above-average braking?
On the real side of the story about breaks , the break is just as important as the power. And don't forget, higher speeds the different will be dramatically higher. That 20feet will grow, insanely longer and very fast...
Also the heat is the other important point too. Bigger breaks will hold the breaking power longer then the smaller ones. You might stop close to the Evo /20 feet/ maybe twice. Then the breaks will start fade and soon you will be stop way later then the evo. So the break upgrades is a must , if you planning to do spirited driving more offen.
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there is the balance between them. If you got a great breaks but crappy tires that is just as bad then the crappy breaks and great tires.Originally Posted by Mors
Also keep in mind the brake issues Robi pointed out were under track conditions, and most of the road tests commenting on the braking issues were using the apparently horrible stock tires. Tires stop the car, not brakes. I think a set of nice 235 tires on the RA would dramatically increase the stopping capabilities in normal road test conditions with the stock brakes.
The breaks stops the car not the tires. the tire helps to stop them sooner for sure , but most importantly keeps you on the road

The wider is not necessary better. The tire compound is more important.
with R compound you will find out very easy how much actually you need to upgrade your stock break set up.
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But 90% of us wouldn't be running R compounds, so a better tire stops better than a huge brake upgrade and keeping stock tires
[QUOTE=TruboPower;6099109]But 90% of us wouldn't be running R compounds, so a better tire stops better than a huge brake upgrade and keeping stock tires[/QUOTE
i think this thread for those who want to go to the next level. other wise why would you need a big break kit?
On street You should be fine with the stage 1. upgrade
2 piece rotors -break lines- break fluid- pads .
i think this thread for those who want to go to the next level. other wise why would you need a big break kit?
On street You should be fine with the stage 1. upgrade

2 piece rotors -break lines- break fluid- pads .




