Nah im sorry, not true.

 

Yeah, like the previous reply. What are you talking about? The GTS doesn't have a turbo charger or the tighter suspension?

 

I'm talking about this.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=127586

 

Wheels and tires need replaced, it's pretty obvious. I'm sure the Evo would pull similiar numbers too if you threw crappy wheels/tires on it.

Besides that, i see two numbers that both have the wheels/tires to thank. Thats hardly beating it in every category.

 

You're out of your mind...you're talking about a car (GTS) that runs a 15.9 @ 88mph 1/4 mile as tested by R&T (16.5 @ 86.0 for the CVT version) vs. a car that ran a 14.1 @ 97 mph as tested by the same magazine? care to explain that logic?

The GTS outperforms the RA in no categories. Just as people are quick to say the RA outpeforms the EVO in no categories as well.

 

Hey Rob, Can't wait to see the pictures.

Oh, BTW- every time I visit my folks in Puerto Rico, the spanglish comes out like you wouldn't believe. I have two choices when I go there.
1- Stay at my folks and allow my Dad to drive me freaken nuts in order to avoid contact with the natives.
2- Venture out and watch people cringe as I brutalize the Spanish language.

Yep, you got it, I choose to watch the faces and learn not to add O's after every word...

I'm glad you've got a good sense of humor.

 

Since I don't drag race the 1/4 mile times do not really matter. I do like going fast though.

Don't get me wrong. I like the RA. I realize that the RA is faster in a straight line. Just saying that to buy a new car that requires 2 sets of new tires (winter and summer) is a little tough to swallow. My point was that for AWD and then have the skidpad and braking be so bad, you are telling me the GTS has awesome performance tires? Why not put those on the RA then?

I think tires help, but those are some pretty big differences to just blame on tires. I do think the brakes are fade resistant though.

 

So it is faster in a straight line....one category. Stops slower, can;t turn as quick...two categories.

I like the car, just trying to justify the money for what I am getting.

 

one of the best modification you can do for the first step as a track car. getting a better tires.
It does a multiple good changes on the car. Acceleration, breaking , cornering, what else modification does that besides the lightening up the car?
Do not under estimate the power of the tires.

 

It'll pull slightly more Gs on a skidpad, maybe. And it (maybe) slaloms a bit faster. What else can it beat the Ralliart in?

 

Yeah, my friend has one in White. It's QUICK.

 

Don't forget the 17.8 sec PZEV CVT version! Woooo! ...I got screwed. For me the Ralliart would be an absolutely amazing difference.

 

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8282

from the 'other' evo forum

 

Yep that is my BUDDY stevo.
He is the one

 

PRICE!!!! and ECONOMY!! That is the point. With AWD it should kill it on the skidpad and in the slalom. Why make a PERFORMANCE car and through crap tires on it. How does the GTS have better skidpad and braking numbers. Braking by a large amount. Many cars go fast in a straight line including me 72 SKYLARK. But brakes and cornering suck. The RA is not that bad but it is not that good either. 3 of its competitors beat it in many performance categories, and they are all cheaper.

All I am saying is, that for the money I do not think the RA is a great deal. I like it and I may even get one. It is going to be a tough decision between the RA and the WRX. I wish I could wait until 2010 as I believe the RA will be better next year. But since I need a car in the next 4 months or so, the WRX is looking pretty good. As the last test showed. The RA averaged 17MPG while the WRX got 22. All things being equal, that is a big price difference over the long haul.

The performance numbers are not blowing me away on the RA. Is it good, YES. Is it great, NO. It is an above average car with a way above average price in its class.

On a good note. I do remember one test getting 26 MPG highway and about 18 city. I could live with that. WRX guys are getting 30 highway and 20+ city.