Moding the Daily Driver
Moding the Daily Driver
I am no expert when it comes to cars, but I have spent a lot of time in this forum learning lots. I wish to slightly mod my 09 ralliart jsut to give it an edge whithout breaking the bank. The only thing is, like for many of us, this car my daily driver and I am leary about reliability.
I plan on doing tire upgrades, SS breaklines, Thicker Swaybars, TBE (UR) K & N drop in.
So here comes the hard part for me, to get the bang for the buck in my wish list, I need to reflash. This is the one thing that voids the warrenty.
So my question is, what is the long term reliability with proven vendors with reflashes, and is there any way around warrenty issues if one were to arise. Flashing it back to stock ect.? My dealer sucks on this one, I was degrated just mentioning the possibility of a mod. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Guys
I plan on doing tire upgrades, SS breaklines, Thicker Swaybars, TBE (UR) K & N drop in.
So here comes the hard part for me, to get the bang for the buck in my wish list, I need to reflash. This is the one thing that voids the warrenty.
So my question is, what is the long term reliability with proven vendors with reflashes, and is there any way around warrenty issues if one were to arise. Flashing it back to stock ect.? My dealer sucks on this one, I was degrated just mentioning the possibility of a mod. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Guys
Flash will void your warranty.. TBE will void your warranty.. hell even new brake lines might void your warranty.. check with other dealerships if you are worried about keeping your warranty
Last edited by Jyrk; Sep 23, 2009 at 11:30 PM.
Dude, it wouldn't be a TERRIBLE thing to have your ECU tuned. Just find a means to re-flash it back to stock so the dealership won't find out. That's your best work-a-round. As far as your other mods, they look to be great steps to take to get the best OOMF outta your car.
Dealers will Chrage you for 2.5 hrs of labor for 30 mins of work. If you have the know how and you are willing to do it then go ahead and dont look back. Some dealers are cool but they are few and far between.
You are going to have to make a choice on what you want to do.
You are going to have to make a choice on what you want to do.
Last edited by japan101; Sep 23, 2009 at 08:53 PM.
Most of the time if the original rom is modified the dealer cant tell. Its when you start swapping roms the problems arrise. The rom has the original cars VIN in it so if VINs don't match no warrenty
Trending Topics
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,186
Likes: 0
From: Inbetween Miami and Ft. Lauderdale
FACT: Flashing/tune and/or anything that increases boost WILL void ur warranty whether u return it to stock or not.
A drop in is nothing more than buyin a better filter for ur car. ie: Buying K&N oil filter rather than OEM, so u should be fine. A full intake will void warranty because u are changin the AFR and will need a tune.
Exhaust will not void ur warranty if u make sure the O2 sensors go back in their original places. I believe there is one b4 and one after the cat and no need for a tune unless u want full performance out of it.
Anything that requires a tune/flash u will be SOL. Sometimes it depends on the dealer, some are mod friendly but most aren't. Don't be fooled there are some dealers that have updated programs to tell if u flash the car or not.
This info was given to me by my friends in the service department at my dealer, one is a mechanic and the other is the service manager. My suggestion to u is find out what ur dealer allows and if they can tell if u flash the car.
A drop in is nothing more than buyin a better filter for ur car. ie: Buying K&N oil filter rather than OEM, so u should be fine. A full intake will void warranty because u are changin the AFR and will need a tune.
Exhaust will not void ur warranty if u make sure the O2 sensors go back in their original places. I believe there is one b4 and one after the cat and no need for a tune unless u want full performance out of it.
Anything that requires a tune/flash u will be SOL. Sometimes it depends on the dealer, some are mod friendly but most aren't. Don't be fooled there are some dealers that have updated programs to tell if u flash the car or not.
This info was given to me by my friends in the service department at my dealer, one is a mechanic and the other is the service manager. My suggestion to u is find out what ur dealer allows and if they can tell if u flash the car.
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,186
Likes: 0
From: Inbetween Miami and Ft. Lauderdale
Yea they said the Ralliart and Evo are the target cars for strict warranty. Thats why we get the shorter warranty than the rest of the line up. For NA cars they are more lenient as long as u don't open up the engine. Cams, rods, pistons those kinds of things.
People who mod cars should never be concerned about a warranty; it's called paying to play.
Cheating the system is trying to have your cake and eat it too...
That's why I either have to wait out the majority of my warranty before doing anything or making sure I have the $$ to fix things myself if anything goes awry.
Cheating the system is trying to have your cake and eat it too...
That's why I either have to wait out the majority of my warranty before doing anything or making sure I have the $$ to fix things myself if anything goes awry.
Evolved Member
iTrader: (4)
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 2,186
Likes: 0
From: Inbetween Miami and Ft. Lauderdale
People who mod cars should never be concerned about a warranty; it's called paying to play.
Cheating the system is trying to have your cake and eat it too...
That's why I either have to wait out the majority of my warranty before doing anything or making sure I have the $$ to fix things myself if anything goes awry.
Cheating the system is trying to have your cake and eat it too...
That's why I either have to wait out the majority of my warranty before doing anything or making sure I have the $$ to fix things myself if anything goes awry.


