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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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I realized that this would not benefit much in regards performance but wondered if there was something that I overlooked that would make a difference worth considering. Every little bit helps but for what cost and comfort is the real question. I think we all would like to loose 200+ pounds but realistically it appears it would take extreme measures.
I think if you took out the spare, jack etc, spoiler, got a lightweight exhaust (which most already are anyway) and some aluminum or carbon fiber parts 100-150 might be reasonable number that you could shoot for.
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Westbound&down
cf hood isnt going to remove weight. We have an aluminum hood as it is.

1.5-2.0 lbs is nothing.
yeah, I meant to say that also.

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Old Sep 28, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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get on a scale.
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 02:28 PM
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oh yeah, you could add a mini battery kit to the car... that might help some... get rid of your stereo... or maybe just have front speakers that are lighter than OE... if that's even possible.
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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its funny that you started this thread, because i was just about to start putting my ralliart on a diet and was thinking of the same thing. the biggest killer is the unspring weight on the car with our stamped steel suspension vs the evo's aluminum pieces. i keep wondering, as i look up at these cars on the racks, how difficult fitment would be and always forget to take actual measurements. and one-off tubular parts are so expensive to have made and are not worth it for the cost if only having a single set done. coil-overs are my next step and moving on from there. i'll be keeping an eye on here and updating as i can as well
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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its funny that you started this thread, because i was just about to start putting my ralliart on a diet and was thinking of the same thing. the biggest killer is the unspring weight on the car with our stamped steel suspension vs the evo's aluminum pieces. i keep wondering, as i look up at these cars on the racks, how difficult fitment would be and always forget to take actual measurements. and one-off tubular parts are so expensive to have made and are not worth it for the cost if only having a single set done. coil-overs are my next step and moving on from there. i'll be keeping an eye on here and updating as i can as well
Your the one that got me thinking. Pretty sure It was you that posted loosing some weight for next year. LOL
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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I stripped everything when I had my RA only thing that was in the inside of it was a steering wheel (w/ no airbag) drivers seat, shifter, and gauges. I took out everything from the headliner to dome lights, to all seats, carpet and padding, seat belts, trunk junk and it reduced my time from 8.3 to 7.79. So you make your judgement.
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 07:00 PM
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yeah, just never got around to making an actual thread. haha. if you find anything new or interesting, let me know and i'll do the same
Old Sep 28, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Rotors, rims, rotating mass = faster movement over static mass.
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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floor mats including trunk and the rear head rests...maybe lighter brake rotors? thats all i can think of most everything else was mentioned
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 07:13 AM
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Why even bother taking anything other than that useless spare that's a different size out? It's a 4 door sedan not a sporty coupe or a sports car for that matter. Spend your money on power output.

But,

HVAC.
Airbags.
Everything except the drivers seat belt wheel and gauges.
Hole saw and champher said holes.
Speedglass Poly-carbonate whatever windows.
Replace your front fenders with dry CF.
Replace your rear quarters with dry CF.
Replace your roof with dry CF.
CF Wheels.
Aluminium/Titanium suspension parts.
Bumper Supports Front and Rear
1 piece CF drive shaft.

Walk?
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by stfuad
Why even bother taking anything other than that useless spare that's a different size out? It's a 4 door sedan not a sporty coupe or a sports car for that matter. Spend your money on power output.

But,

HVAC.
Airbags.
Everything except the drivers seat belt wheel and gauges.
Hole saw and champher said holes.
Speedglass Poly-carbonate whatever windows.
Replace your front fenders with dry CF.
Replace your rear quarters with dry CF.
Replace your roof with dry CF.
CF Wheels.
Aluminium/Titanium suspension parts.
Bumper Supports Front and Rear
1 piece CF drive shaft.

Walk?
i think the point is to keep it a usable 4dr sedan while lightening as much as functionally possible. i love my luxuries and am personally unwilling to sacrifice a/c and p/s and things of that nature in this car.

the other point i think that is being missed is the attempt to find things already in-production or being produced on a large scale. one-off items can be made at high cost, but to what end result. i feel like with the limited aftermarket support the ralliart has, this will be the only method to see a lot of these things produced for us, but i'd rather cross that bridge when i need to come to it. just google how many different lightweight items you can find for a mustang, for example, and you will see how under-represented the ralliart is in the aftermarket (in case you didnt know already)

a lot of cf and frp parts for the evo and lancer are compatible and will obviously offer some weight savings. wheels are obviously another option already available, but i think we are looking for the not-so-obvious here, like suspension bits that may already be in production but not widely known. i would love to find a company making lightweight/forged control-arms, cross-members, rotors, ...anything; but the only offering i see in that area are parts like ams' front cross-member that is made for the evo and only coincidentally fits the ralliart. the same thing with driveshafts, as you mentioned again, would be a great option to lower rotating mass, another huge help, but something that, as of yet, has not been seen.

this would just be a nice place to have a sticky thread to start a list, maybe re-do the first post to include offerings that we find to lighten up the heavy pig that we are driving; not just for track performance, but people who want improved everyday performance including gas mileage/fuel economy and reduced overall wear on a lot of components affected by the girth of the ralliart.
Old Sep 29, 2010 | 09:15 AM
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I'd tinker with unsprung weight, rotating mass, and scavenging as well:
  • 16" or 17" rims
  • Lightest drag radials you can find
  • Remove A/C, or at least the belt
  • Remove Power Steering belt
  • Maybe Al Drive Pulley. Don't know how much the steel one scavenges though...Might not be worth it.
Old Sep 30, 2010 | 04:36 AM
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i understand removing maybe the spare tire, but remember did you buy your car to be a race car or a nice daily driver that is sporty enough to have fun, if you bought it to be a race car you mighta bought the wrong car, you want a car that is still nice without having to gut the whole thing to achieve a 1/10 second difference on a mile. I just dont see the point in pulling all this stuff outta your car.
Old Sep 30, 2010 | 05:43 AM
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everything from bacck part ,spoiler ,engine cover ,snorkel , battery cover and put some 16 in steal wheels, remove the muffler<not the best if you go on a long trip



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