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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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K I'll try it out on my way home. What was your 60 hoot at?
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:22 PM
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What tune do you have and how much power?
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 03:26 PM
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I want to say it was a 1.87 but I'm not positive. I knew it was a decent 60ft.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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I think what the op was taking about in his last post is his car isn't really launching...said his launch feels like a slipping clutch. I haber had it feel like that before as well...but only a few times and I use the tap method. Prob didn't get a boost launch...do you have a boost gauge op?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 01:11 AM
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boost gauge arrives tomorrow. i have a tune from english racing 283hp 316tq. its not slipping it just doesnt grab. i was messing with it a bit on the way home i brought it up to 4k on launch rather than 3-3.5 i heard and felt tires struggling to grip. i'm gonna head back soon to the track hopefully it will shed some time. but not the .5+ i was thinking i should be at
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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its not slipping it just doesnt grab.
Isn't that the definition of slipping?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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Isnt the tap method pretty much just a neutral drop. Im not sure about it. Im just going to go with the brake boost method u can always change out your clutch packs.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:32 AM
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Isn't that the definition of slipping?
Yea I guess. Bad explanation. It's like when ur at the light and the clutch disengages. It's not an instant launch but it's not slipping on launch. More like a delay of power like we get from a stop. Is that still normal on launches? Seems like mine is longer than I would think it should. Could be normal not sure
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Isnt the tap method pretty much just a neutral drop. Im not sure about it. Im just going to go with the brake boost method u can always change out your clutch packs.
No, because the gears are already engaged.

If you move it from N to D not only do you drop the clutch, you slam the gear.

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boost gauge arrives tomorrow. i have a tune from english racing 283hp 316tq. its not slipping it just doesnt grab. i was messing with it a bit on the way home i brought it up to 4k on launch rather than 3-3.5 i heard and felt tires struggling to grip. i'm gonna head back soon to the track hopefully it will shed some time. but not the .5+ i was thinking i should be at

Sounds like you might be having some torque management issues.

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:11 PM
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No, because the gears are already engaged.

If you move it from N to D not only do you drop the clutch, you slam the gear.
I dont doubt u but if the clutches are engaged wouldnt u move when u hit the gas. So ur saying it safe to use that method? What method would u use?
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:22 PM
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I dont doubt u but if the clutches are engaged wouldnt u move when u hit the gas. So ur saying it safe to use that method? What method would u use?

*gear* is engaged, not the clutch.

When you have your foot on the brake and the car in drive, the clutches are disengaged but the gear is engaged. Once you take your foot off the brake, the clutches engage and the car will start moving, with or without you giving it throttle.

When you are in Neutral. Both the gear *and* the clutches are disengaged. Foot on the brake or not. So if you rev the car up and slam it from N to D, *both* the gear and the clutches are slammed into engagement, which can put much more stress on the gear teeth then if the gear was already meshed fully (when engaged).

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Crazems
boost gauge arrives tomorrow. i have a tune from english racing 283hp 316tq. its not slipping it just doesnt grab. i was messing with it a bit on the way home i brought it up to 4k on launch rather than 3-3.5 i heard and felt tires struggling to grip. i'm gonna head back soon to the track hopefully it will shed some time. but not the .5+ i was thinking i should be at
That's very interesting because when Aaron tuned my car, he said he was hesitant to take wtq above 315 because the SST would generate more heat than he was comfortable with on the dyno.
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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Yea he dropped the boost some after that pull. And we had a puny fan and 5 more cars to do so I didn't do another pill so right now my torque is lower. So I was told
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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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*gear* is engaged, not the clutch.

When you have your foot on the brake and the car in drive, the clutches are disengaged but the gear is engaged. Once you take your foot off the brake, the clutches engage and the car will start moving, with or without you giving it throttle.

When you are in Neutral. Both the gear *and* the clutches are disengaged. Foot on the brake or not. So if you rev the car up and slam it from N to D, *both* the gear and the clutches are slammed into engagement, which can put much more stress on the gear teeth then if the gear was already meshed fully (when engaged).
Got ya I understand for some reason I read gear and was thinkin clutch. So the clutches are not engaged whill reving with this method since the car doesnt move? So its pretty much like dumping the clutch.

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Old Apr 20, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Sounds like you might be having some torque management issues.
My wife has 'talk' management issues - bet you can't fix that Bryan!
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