Ok obviously I know this is an evo thread but I also asked around on Nasioc I'm just hoping every here isn't one sided I own a wrx now but a couple months ago drove an evo x obviously evo being more expensive I'm looking at the ralliart but also still in love with the wrx I just need to know some opinions if anyone on here is nice enough and not trying to be a dick about this post I just can't make up my mind would just like some input on the 2 vehicles im looking at buying new

 

Haha **** I replied on the show and shine thread damnit

 

EvoX and RA's are two different beasts. While the RA is a "good start" towards being a great performance car, it makes a lot of "performance sacrifices" in an effort to be a better daily driver. The EvoX, while it can be used as a daily, is not quite as pleasant as a daily, but sooo much better as a performance car.

Honestly, if you're cross shoping WRX, EvoX, and RAs, you should drive all of them and decide for yourself which is best.

One thing to keep in mind though, w/ the Mitsu 5spd manual transmissions, you'l be spinnin 4k RPM at 80MPH. In contrast, the 6spd TC-SST equipped cars are spinning approximately 3k RPM. This makes a significant difference in long drive fatigue and fuel economy (especially w/ these 4B11T engines)...

 

The only reason I mentioned the evo was because I drove the gsr but the dealer wouldn't let me drive the ralliart and I have driven both a wrx and sti new but when it comes to sti/evo I will always choose evo but since Mitsubishi has upped there game by finally making the ralliart turbo and awd the toss up begins on which I want more a new wrx or ralliart they both have tons of potential

 

Lol fail on the post. Mods might over it for you.

Are you looking at getting a new wrx vs a new ralliart? Best way I can describe it is that if you are planning on modding, a ralliart is better and will get much more out of it with mods. The WRX is harder to get more power out of. Just think of it, the RAs have a tranny from an MR and the same engine as the Evo X.

 

I see your point. I went w/ the RA because I've always liked Mitsubishi vehicles. A buddy at work went w/ the WRX because he prefers Subbies.

On paper the WRX edges out the RA (in power), but when you bring modding and tuning into the equation they're effectively equivalent. Though, the WRX still has the advantage of being available w/ a manual transmission. Where as the RA is only available w/ the TC-SST.

The dealership I bought my RA from didn't have any RA on the lot, so I had them let me drive a EvoX MR in order to determine if I would find the TC-SST acceptable. Most "purists" hate on the transmission, and I'll admit that normal manual transmissions are definitely more fun to drive. Every now and then, I do find myself missing a proper manual transmission. However, the TC-SST transmission does provide enough gratifying responsiveness to keep me happy.

One thing I found was that driving a RA like it's a manual transmission car has much better driving enjoyment than driving it like it's a regular automatic transmission.

 

Yea the dealership wouldn't let me drive the RA I drove the evo gsr with the 5spd so I never got to try out the tc-sst

 

The WRX edges out the RA substantially in terms of performance, stock for stock. When you bring in modding, it's easy to get power out of both vehicles. Where the "ceiling" is for both cars depends on your wallet. The RA is limited by the transmission that doesn't seem to like torque above around 300 WTQ while the Subaru is limited by the engine. Both can be modded to address these limitations for around the same cost and with the same drawbacks. You have to pick your poison and the only way to do that is to drive them all and see which one you like.

 

Uh no. It's very easy to get power out of a WRX, in fact, it's just as easy if not easier than a RA. The Transmission of the RA also is not the same as the one in the MR, the gearing is a bit different if I recall correctly and it seems to be able to handle less power, and the while the block is the same, the turbo and attached parts are not.

 

from what i was told the wrx/sti parts are more expensive, so your shelling out higher costs for a lil bit of performance, the transmission, the gears are ratio'ed differently as to give the RA a bit of a DD transmission, we have a very large 6th gear, and handle less power, i doubt that, your tranny is not much different then mine, you have but different gears sizes, and a s-sport, that would be about it.

 

WRXs and STIs respond very well to mods. There was a thread on here from AMS, a well respected Evo tuner, emphasizing that point.

A few tuners have commented that the RA transmission cannot as much power. They notice slipping at lower power levels on the RA compared to the Evo MR. There's speculation that it's a clutch difference or tune issue but I don't know if it's been verified.

 

Well it has 25% more displacement.

The extra cost comes from having 2 heads to work on, once you get to that point.


Also the WRX has a glass tranny, unless they upgraded it in the last couple years. Think old MR, but it breaks from power not from poor heat dispersion on the track.

 

That part can get pretty pricey but for most people, it's a moot point. If you're building some high HP monster, you'd be better off with the wut or maybe a completely different car like a Corvette.

 

Cams are pretty common once you start modding, regardless of whether they are necessary. Also some people don't like top mounts because they heat soak (at least that is what people tracking last gen Subs told me) so that is an extra cost if you want to be trendy. Things add up, especially when you are starting out with a budget car because it is a budget car. Though honestly either car stock is more than enough for anything even remotely legal you are going to do on the street, and once you start building a track car either will add up pretty fast. Why I dumped the IX, so I could go racing on a budget. My current car fwiw cost less than 1/3 of the IX to do the full build and is way more fun and faster around local tracks than the IX was. I get close to my friend in his caged/cammed/full suspension/max perf summer tire car at Sears Point with 1/3 his hp and some R comps at 1/5 the cost of his setup.

 

Moved to General. Arguing removed.

Amby, we're talking RA vs. WRX, not STI. Still asking for trouble, but lets at least keep the comparison consistent and relevant.