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Wasurumo Jan 10, 2011 06:36 PM

Rally tires and Weels
 
Lots of people on here are changing the weels for their care on here to fit the the whole AutoX style bigger wider.

But looking to go the other direction and get some Rally spec tires. But all I can find are 15' suby and EVO ones around and seen on here that our cars can only go down to 16'

Any got links to places that either will machine some or know any one that fit 15' on are cars. sh*t how did they get them on the EVO there breakes are bigger than ours.

I want to get this done....this car will be rallied out by the end of the year seats, cage, and everything so i can race in modified production class races.

any help is greatly needed

DaJackson Jan 11, 2011 08:03 AM

Pretty sure the Evo doesnt run a 15" in the rally, probably a 17"

03chi-town0Z Jan 13, 2011 04:00 AM

what's wrong with a good 16x6.5 or 16x7? there's plenty to be found that'll hold up to a good amount of abuse, not to mention much cheaper than all the 18s most people are in the market for now

suprPHREAK Jan 13, 2011 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by DaJackson (Post 8980060)
Pretty sure the Evo doesnt run a 15" in the rally, probably a 17"

Bigger brakes do not necessarily make better brakes. Materials and cooling have a lot more to do with it than just size alone. More than that, unsprung weight reduction will let the suspension components react faster.

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...Brake-Kit.html

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/a...kit-front.html


Can't really argue with a 24-lb to 32-lb unsprung/rotating weight reduction, can you? If you don't believe that they use these, see http://www.amsperformance.com/acp_evoix_rally_car.php under wheels/tires, you see 15" listed.

DaJackson Jan 13, 2011 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by suprPHREAK (Post 8985680)
Bigger brakes do not necessarily make better brakes. Materials and cooling have a lot more to do with it than just size alone. More than that, unsprung weight reduction will let the suspension components react faster.

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...Brake-Kit.html

http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/a...kit-front.html


Can't really argue with a 24-lb to 32-lb unsprung/rotating weight reduction, can you? If you don't believe that they use these, see http://www.amsperformance.com/acp_evoix_rally_car.php under wheels/tires, you see 15" listed.


I never said anything about brakes and I was talking about the Evo X not earlier gens.

Wasurumo Jan 13, 2011 06:42 PM

Na I am just looking for a good wheel choice that will fit the tire I need plus the upgraded break kit later.

It's just I don't see many rally tires over about a sixteen.

Also I just need a good wheel that will hold up to the abuse.

Wasurumo Jan 13, 2011 06:47 PM

Oh and they don't have to be 15 I just need some help finding the right choice

Ladogaboy Jan 13, 2011 07:06 PM


Originally Posted by DaJackson (Post 8985965)
I never said anything about brakes and I was talking about the Evo X not earlier gens.

Remember that the EVO X was not designed for Rally use. I'm not sure about EVOs, but I know for a fact that STIs run 15"s on dirt/gravel. I believe that they swap out the Brembos with a smaller caliper brake in order to do so, though.

Wasurumo Jan 13, 2011 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by Ladogaboy (Post 8987699)
Remember that the EVO X was not designed for Rally use. I'm not sure about EVOs, but I know for a fact that STIs run 15"s on dirt/gravel. I believe that they swap out the Brembos with a smaller caliper brake in order to do so, though.

Yes the Eco is a track car but there are some in rally.

But I'm still talking about the ralliart wheels. I need a good wheel that will fit the tire

suprPHREAK Jan 20, 2011 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ladogaboy (Post 8987699)
Remember that the EVO X was not designed for Rally use. I'm not sure about EVOs, but I know for a fact that STIs run 15"s on dirt/gravel. I believe that they swap out the Brembos with a smaller caliper brake in order to do so, though.

X was definitely designed for Rally use...but there is no factory teams. Mitsu still has a very active rally assitance program, and the X took first place in the 2009 North American Rally Championship:
http://blog.amsperformance.com/2009/...-championship/



Originally Posted by DaJackson
I never said anything about brakes and I was talking about the Evo X not earlier gens.

My bad, wrong link:
http://www.amsperformance.com/acp_evox_rally_car.php
15" gravel wheels.

Using these brakes:
http://www.amsperformance.com/cart/A...Brake-Kit.html

Brakes are the limiting factor to wheel size...in OEM config, the Evo X Brembos are too big to allow 15" wheels. You need to swap for smaller rotors and all hardware that lets that work. So indirectly, you were talking about brakes :)

15" wheel at work, in a "not designed for rally" car:
http://www.acpracing.com/admin/data/...aie-2009/a.jpg

03chi-town0Z Jan 20, 2011 09:12 AM

curious, though, if the evo kit would mount to the ra knuckle or if there would need to be additional fabrication for some different mounting brackets

Wasurumo Jan 21, 2011 02:13 PM

Well by those specs. theses EBC Rotors are smaller. i just need a new caliper so the wheels will fit.

http://www.ajusa.com/details/EBC-Bra...+GAS%3B+Turbo&

03chi-town0Z Jan 22, 2011 03:38 AM


Originally Posted by Westbound&down (Post 9005321)
ams has a willwood kit they made for the RA that fits horribly. A local dealer lost about 1000$ in labour charges on a AMS will wood kit, that never worked right, which they ended up removing and sending back. That car ended being the first with evo x brembos. Same car. Same dealer, so that will give you an idea of how bad fitment must have been.

'preciate the info. now to keep searching...

Wasurumo Jan 23, 2011 08:46 AM

Yea it seem I just have too wait till EBC or someone makes the whole set.

Wasurumo Apr 3, 2011 04:31 AM

Just found a guy that's is letting see if his evo's fit my Ralliar he does Rally and rallycross "score"

he is going to let me have his setup or buy.

and yes this is all about breakes no wheels


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