HP gains from modifications based on 1/4 mile results.
Not sure of the particulars of each.
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AMS ran a 12.9 @ 104 with full bolt-ons. and a tune of course.
Their tunes net you about 40 WHP.
Every other bolt-on will get you about 5-10 hp.
So yeah 70 WHP is realistic.
In my book you are not far from 300 WHP.
according to your mods with a tune..you should be in the 270-280 WHP range.
since baselines are like 200 WHP.
anyways, nice mods.
13.2 aint too shabby. You should be in the 12's tho.
here was AMS' set up
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...rag-strip.html
Their tunes net you about 40 WHP.
Every other bolt-on will get you about 5-10 hp.
So yeah 70 WHP is realistic.
In my book you are not far from 300 WHP.
according to your mods with a tune..you should be in the 270-280 WHP range.
since baselines are like 200 WHP.
anyways, nice mods.
13.2 aint too shabby. You should be in the 12's tho.
here was AMS' set up
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/dr...rag-strip.html
Keith
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Their best runs were made with no junk in the trunk and half a tank a fuel... almost identical condition as my car.They were running the stock cat back exhaust, but have a much better tune than I currently have.
Keith
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Wow. So, track results with a 9 mph gain in trap speed mean absolutely nothing.
You are correct, I LOST power from all my crappy bolt-on's. I should have known better than to argue with an intellect like yours.
Enlighten me oh great and powerful one. How much HP gain do you need to improve your trap speed by 9 mph in the 1/4 mile in a car that weighs 3,685 lbs with the driver? It is simple math. Go ahead and work it out. My car on track weight when I ran stock was 3790 lbs. You will need that as well for your calculations.
Go ahead. I am waiting.
Up until now your argument consists of one thing and one thing only. You saying "I don't think so"... with nothing to back it up.
Keith
You are correct, I LOST power from all my crappy bolt-on's. I should have known better than to argue with an intellect like yours.
Enlighten me oh great and powerful one. How much HP gain do you need to improve your trap speed by 9 mph in the 1/4 mile in a car that weighs 3,685 lbs with the driver? It is simple math. Go ahead and work it out. My car on track weight when I ran stock was 3790 lbs. You will need that as well for your calculations.
Go ahead. I am waiting.
Up until now your argument consists of one thing and one thing only. You saying "I don't think so"... with nothing to back it up.
Keith
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I haven't weighed a Ralliart sedan on the truck scales like I have my car, so I have to go by the published weights on the mitsubishi website.
By that the sportback is 110 lbs heavier than the sedan. Take 25 lbs off of that because I have the AMS cat back and they were running the stock cat back on that trip to the drag strip. I have no idea what their driver weighed in at, but I am a fat *** at 250 dressed for the track (helmet, long sleeves etc.)
Keith
By that the sportback is 110 lbs heavier than the sedan. Take 25 lbs off of that because I have the AMS cat back and they were running the stock cat back on that trip to the drag strip. I have no idea what their driver weighed in at, but I am a fat *** at 250 dressed for the track (helmet, long sleeves etc.)
Keith
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Now you're just being passive aggressive and ridiculous. Of course you didn't lose power with your mods but, again, do you honestly think a 70 HP gain is realistic? You have zero dyno results, you're basing this on 1/4 mile times that are prone to wide variations in accuracy. Hell, you claim the stock HP is 250 HP, that alone shows that it's incorrect (I'm not going to get into some stupid "the car is underpowered" argument...again).
Keith
Why I'm the way I am? So you mean because I don't accept wildly inaccurate 1/4 mile results as a means of measuring engine power? You're ****ing kidding me right? You freely admit in your first post that
yet here you are, defending them like the word of god. If you know they're not accurate, correct or comparable to any dyno, why are you getting upset when someone states that?
Taken directly from the site
They even say you shouldn't be using the numbers as you are.
Taken directly from the site
This program will give you a ballpark estimate of your horsepower. Please don't make the mistake of quoting these numbers as if they meant anything.
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From: somewhere testing various tires, brakes, and suspensions.
Re-reading all of this. Highly inaccurate, speculative, goes no where. Track conditions, winds, temperatures all change results.
Dyno results. Prove hp differences in a controlled setting.
Dyno results. Prove hp differences in a controlled setting.
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I don't want the thread locked, so please everyone stop poking him with a stick. We don't want the thread locked so just ignore him. I had never encountered him in a thread before, so I didn't know any better. Sorry to have caused this problem by replying to him.
My bad,
Keith
My bad,
Keith
Last edited by Fourdoor; Oct 19, 2009 at 07:05 PM.