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Old May 2, 2010 | 09:44 PM
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Question SST Delay in Shifting

I recently started to notice that when I paddle shift weather I am in Normal or Sport mode the car will delay in shifting and often jerk. It does with when the car is both cold and warm. It doesn't happen all the time but it has been happening more frequently lately. I only have about 3k miles on the car. Anyone else experiencing this?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 06:37 AM
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I have noticed a slight delay when using the paddle shifters as well, however, I do not notice any delays when using the floor shifter.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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I've noticed the same delays, floor or paddle shift, esp when from a stand still in 1st, usually when turning.

Like when I'm waiting to make a left turn and I see a brake in oncoming traffic. When I floor it, I'm at ~3000 by the time I clear the intersection, hit the shifter, and it won't shift till I'm at 4000.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 09:46 AM
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Yeah but in sport mode and using the stick shifter shifts right away for me. In normal mode it always goes up at least 500 more rpms before it shifts
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Is there a difference in sport mode while using the shifters/stick. Cause its seems that the sport mode would really be used in automatic mode, since the purpose of the mode is to keep the turbo spoiling, thus leaving the Rpms over 3K, correct? So leaving it in manual shouldn't matter since your in control of the Rpm bands at all times, so the spoiling come in to play correct?
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Old May 3, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by xi
I've noticed the same delays, floor or paddle shift, esp when from a stand still in 1st, usually when turning.

Like when I'm waiting to make a left turn and I see a brake in oncoming traffic. When I floor it, I'm at ~3000 by the time I clear the intersection, hit the shifter, and it won't shift till I'm at 4000.
i hate when you floor it in automatic and then shift with the paddles during say gears 1-2 then in 3rd it'll shift to 4... then you'll have to downshift back down to 3rd.. guess its a safety thing, or it shifts so quick in auto that by the time you press to shift your in 3rd( the correct gear) but then your in 4th since you pressed the gear right when it shifted
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Old May 3, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 2010 Rallihead
Is there a difference in sport mode while using the shifters/stick. Cause its seems that the sport mode would really be used in automatic mode, since the purpose of the mode is to keep the turbo spoiling, thus leaving the Rpms over 3K, correct? So leaving it in manual shouldn't matter since your in control of the Rpm bands at all times, so the spoiling come in to play correct?
In manual or automatic, shifts are quicker with less clutch slipping in Sport mode. The exception might be wide-open-throttle shifts; I haven't read anything that says either way.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 2010 Rallihead
i hate when you floor it in automatic and then shift with the paddles during say gears 1-2 then in 3rd it'll shift to 4... then you'll have to downshift back down to 3rd.. guess its a safety thing, or it shifts so quick in auto that by the time you press to shift your in 3rd( the correct gear) but then your in 4th since you pressed the gear right when it shifted
I think in automatic, it shifts early to save on gas, so by the time you shift, it's already shifted, and you end up being 1 gear higher. I almost never use the auto, just for less wear and tear on the tranny. In the city, it's always shifting ~2200-3000 depending on conditions if it's in automatic. That means from light to light the thing's going like 1-2-3-4-5-6-5-4-5-4-3-2-3-4-5 whereas I can get by with just 1-2-3-4-5-4-3-4.

The one time when automatic override (not manual mode) comes in handy is when passing. If I'm in automatic 6th let's say, I can tap the left paddle down to 5th, pass, get back in the lane, and hold down the right paddle. This both upshifts back into 6th where it was and also puts it back into automatic.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xi
I think in automatic, it shifts early to save on gas, so by the time you shift, it's already shifted, and you end up being 1 gear higher.

The one time when automatic override (not manual mode) comes in handy is when passing.
Thats wut im saying.

Do you think the manual mode with sportmode on makes a difference, then having it on normal, seems not to matter, thou obviously auto would, just wondering if this is correct, or there is a difference
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Old May 3, 2010 | 12:43 PM
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It def shifts faster under sport.

Under normal acceleration, 30-40% throttle, normal-manual ends up shifting like, 2-300 rpms higher than when I hit it. Sport-manual is near instantaneous. Faster than I can notice anyway.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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the only time i use auto mode in day 2 day driving is when i've got a drink or something on the go. otherwise its manual mode in normal all the time.
switch to sport mode when i need to do some "spirited" driving
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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by xi
It def shifts faster under sport.

Under normal acceleration, 30-40% throttle, normal-manual ends up shifting like, 2-300 rpms higher than when I hit it. Sport-manual is near instantaneous. Faster than I can notice anyway.
you saying in automatic I'm guess, which its shifts slower notice it holds the gears longer in auto while in sport, guarantee you, that you'll never be able to hit 4-5gears while drivin in auto-sport, if you do you'll be doin 60-80mph, unless thats how you normally drive on the streets if you full throttle and in normal-auto it shift quicker for better fuel efficiency but manual shouldn't matter since you control the shifts

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Old May 3, 2010 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010 Rallihead
Is there a difference in sport mode while using the shifters/stick. Cause its seems that the sport mode would really be used in automatic mode, since the purpose of the mode is to keep the turbo spoiling, thus leaving the Rpms over 3K, correct? So leaving it in manual shouldn't matter since your in control of the Rpm bands at all times, so the spoiling come in to play correct?
I ALWAYS drive in sport mode, the only thing that varies is sometimes I go with manual sport and other times automatic sport, but either way I haven't had any problems. The other thing I ALWAYS do is use the stick shifter when driving in manual sport mode, since I really don't like the paddle shifters.
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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2010 Rallihead
you saying in automatic I'm guess, which its shifts slower notice it holds the gears longer in auto while in sport, guarantee you, that you'll never be able to hit 4-5gears while drivin in auto-sport, if you do you'll be doin 60-80mph, unless thats how you normally drive on the streets if you full throttle and in normal-auto it shift quicker for better fuel efficiency but manual shouldn't matter since you control the shifts
You're misinterpreting what we're saying. When I say it shifts "quicker" in Sport, the actual gear change is faster. The clutch is slipped less so it is a rougher, faster shift. Quicker doesn't mean sooner, as in a lower RPM. So in automatic or manual, the shift will be faster.

He is saying that in normal-manual, there is a delay where the RPM will rise another 200-300 RPM after he shifts, but in sport-manual, there is almost none.

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Old May 3, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by xi
I've noticed the same delays, floor or paddle shift, esp when from a stand still in 1st, usually when turning.

Like when I'm waiting to make a left turn and I see a brake in oncoming traffic. When I floor it, I'm at ~3000 by the time I clear the intersection, hit the shifter, and it won't shift till I'm at 4000.
If I shift 1,000 RPM before redline it usually delays to redline... Also it does this jerk shift rather then a sometimes smooth shift at high RPMs.
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