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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 09:43 AM
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TC-SST Sport vs. Normal Mode

I have a 2010 Lancer RA. I LOVE the twin clutch. Its so fast and all my friends are jelous. So I know what Sport mode auto does. But what exactly does sport mode manual do??? I don't really feel a difference. Can someone help me figure it out. Thanks.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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The shifts are just a bit quicker in Sport.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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sport manual doesn't change gears automatically, unless RPMs drop below 1k RPM.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by nunyas
sport manual doesn't change gears automatically, unless RPMs drop below 1k RPM.
Normal manual doesn't either, at least i haven't noticed.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 10:41 AM
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true, but the op was asking the difference between sport auto and sport manual... and that's the only difference between those two
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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no true. Sport Auto shifts "automatically" at a much higher RPM than Normal Auto. Sport Manual doesn't shift until you tell it to, hence "manual" (to be perfectly honest I haven't tested if it will auto shift at red-line or simply bounce off the rev limit. Way more damage than I want to intentionally cause on a $10K tranny )
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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Oh yeah, and I finally found out why we have that rev hang, its an emissions feature. If you step on it, then try to shift too quickly, it will "rev hang" to burn off unused fuel rather than sending it out the tailpipe. Learn new things all the time
Soooo, either re-tune or wait longer to shift, haha
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
no true. Sport Auto shifts "automatically" at a much higher RPM than Normal Auto. Sport Manual doesn't shift until you tell it to, hence "manual" (to be perfectly honest I haven't tested if it will auto shift at red-line or simply bounce off the rev limit. Way more damage than I want to intentionally cause on a $10K tranny )
It bounces off the rev limiter . I'm still trying to get used to this tranny, I mix it up so much between auto/manual that I have forgotten to shift in manual mode as mentioned above, and put it into neutral trying to down shift while in auto mode. I love the manual mode though, still rev matches better than I ever could.

OP, sport manual supposedly has a higher clamping force on the clutches as opposed to normal manual mode. I've read that on here, and you can definitely feel the difference if you're looking for it. I have also read on hear the manufacturer of the TC-SST also made shifts more harsh to make it *feel* sportier, so there could be some of that going on as well
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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sounds like the sst should have three settings instead of four (technically); auto, manual, and sport auto...

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OP, sport manual supposedly has a higher clamping force on the clutches as opposed to normal manual mode. I've read that on here, and you can definitely feel the difference if you're looking for it. I have also read on hear the manufacturer of the TC-SST also made shifts more harsh to make it *feel* sportier, so there could be some of that going on as well
if this is true, none of these would effect mpg right? or at least significantly. ive had my RA for only a month and ive only driven it strictly in manual normal, sounds like i can drive in manual sport and not effect my mpg? someone correct me if im wrong.
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Old Jan 5, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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sport manual still auto downshifts if the RPMs drop below 1k RPM
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
Oh yeah, and I finally found out why we have that rev hang, its an emissions feature. If you step on it, then try to shift too quickly, it will "rev hang" to burn off unused fuel rather than sending it out the tailpipe. Learn new things all the time
Soooo, either re-tune or wait longer to shift, haha
already got another tune but i always had wondered wtf that was before hand.
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:02 AM
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sport manual still auto downshifts if the RPMs drop below 1k RPM
All modes auto-downshift below 1K, thats to prevent stalling
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
all modes auto-downshift below 1k, thats to prevent stalling
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
Oh yeah, and I finally found out why we have that rev hang, its an emissions feature. If you step on it, then try to shift too quickly, it will "rev hang" to burn off unused fuel rather than sending it out the tailpipe. Learn new things all the time
Soooo, either re-tune or wait longer to shift, haha
If this is true than a good tuner is capable of fixing this issue? It drives me nuts when I hit the gas and it hangs before finally shifting. PITA! I wonder of the V3 GST flash will address this.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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the ams stage 2 flash has gotten rid of it for me in every gear except 5th, but this is only when i am driving in manual/normal. in sport theres no hang. im getting it dyno tuned in a few months so hopefully itll be all out
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