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Old Dec 19, 2011 | 11:40 PM
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Need Serious Answers.....

I'm in the process of building the RA.... Without getting into full details just had these questions I figured I ask the crowd...

Q: If MR's are Capable of making good power with over 400TQ can we RA guys do it?

Q: How much power will the Rear Diff and TC hold on the RA?

Q: How can we get the SST Trans to shift into the next gear MUCH quicker, similar to GTR gear changes?

Q: Will doing the SSP 10Disk Upgrade make the car shift any quicker or just support the increase in power?

Q: Can you run a Standalone ECU and Pick up a GSR trans and install Clutch pedal for it to work? Properly?

That's all the questions I have for now.... Thanks in Advance and NO I dont want to buy another Evo as I have a Built 9 and 1 Evo is enough. I wanna take the RA to the next level and get MORE exposure for it

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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
I'm in the process of building the RA.... Without getting into full details just had these questions I figured I ask the crowd...

Q: If MR's are Capable of making good power with over 400TQ can we RA guys do it?

Q: How much power will the Rear Diff and TC hold on the RA?

Q: How can we get the SST Trans to shift into the next gear MUCH quicker, similar to GTR gear changes?

Q: Will doing the SSP 10Disk Upgrade make the car shift any quicker or just support the increase in power?

Q: Can you run a Standalone ECU and Pick up a GSR trans and install Clutch pedal for it to work? Properly?

That's all the questions I have for now.... Thanks in Advance and NO I don't want to buy another Evo as I have a Built 9 and 1 Evo is enough. I wanna take the RA to the next level and get MORE exposure for it
w00t! Someone is asking the right questions.

I'm not a tuner, but a driver. This car will/could/need to benefit in two main areas, Trans and Suspension. No one ever complains of the diff's unless you're cruising a local nasa/scca rallyX forum. I've tested this car in D-Stock, but am even hesitant to load the trans with 'fear' of warranty woes. She's a serious underdog in SCCA Stock Solo. Unfortunately, as soon as you reach above that class in SCCA, they put you with the Evo .
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:21 AM
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..Just an edit and thinking. This is why I think a lot are bailing on the RA now. They did not know what they wanted. This is a GTS geometry undercarriage and the after market isn't there for practical use. I can't get a stiffer damper without re-valves.

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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:33 AM
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..Just an edit and thinking. This is why I think a lot are bailing on the RA now. They did not know what they wanted. This is a GTS geometry undercarriage and the after market isn't there for practical use. I can't get a stiffer damper without re-valves.
I'm a Ultra Racing Vendor... Not On here on EvoM But I am a Dealer for UR (Ultra Racing) My car has full Braces from Trunk/Rear Passenger Cabin bar, Fender Braces, Sway Bar, Everything possible that most if not hardly any Evo guys have. Makes the Creaking Stop and the Chassis feels AWESOME and very responsive to corners.

I'm on a Custom Setup, Swift Springs on Megan Racing Coilovers. The Megan Racing Struts are Capable of Supporting 14K Springs and that's directly from the R&D team from Megan/BCracing.... I also have a set of KW's but I dont use those YET until i see the full need to throw them on (Got them as a gift).

I dont plan on racing in Cones/SCCA Events. I've gone to Buttonwillow, Streets of Willow, Laguna Seca, and Cal Speedway.

I want to see how far I can take the RA vs Evo scene. I'm a Firm believer that the RA has potential it's just the people who drive them dont want to push it cause they dont want to feel like they're investing money into a car that you can do with an Evo. The RA doesn't have Super AWD, but it's very similar to NOT EXACTLY but similar to the Evo 9. RAW.....


I dont even know if this post made sense....

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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:45 AM
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I dont even know if this post made sense....
Nope!

And... I've got to say... a lightly tweaked RA is heaps of fun on a tight skidpan course!

Rich
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 02:13 AM
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Wow this thread title dent even make sense hahahaha

Rich Im gonna email you something let me know your thoughts
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:30 AM
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I'm heading down your same road. Next season I'll be stepping up on track days (road, of course), and need to get the car set-up properly. If you want to see what the tranny is capable of for shifting speed/strength meet up with me and we can go for a ride. While my ROM is a complete Frankenstein of patches, shifting logic/rev-matching is about as perfect as we can get at this point. I do quite a bit of testing for Rich a la Bryan.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:36 AM
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As I understand it, for track days having the mechanical rear diff is a perk. I've noticed an increasing trend of X owners swapping out the diffs for mechanical units.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:52 AM
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So, serious answer time:

1). Wait for the Dodson/Exedy clutches to come out. Both AMS and Shep use Dodson products in their builds. I use an Exedy clutch in my car, and this is what I would have purchased in my RA, if push came to shove. (Dodson GTR Clutches Review)

2). Once it is possible to reflash the TCU with an MR ROM, then power will be more easily manageable (hopefully). There are tricks and such that will allow more power. However, I have only ever seen them used on street cars. I am not sure how such a thing would hold up, on the track.

3). I hate to say this, but if it is a 5-speed that you want, buy a GSR.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 07:53 AM
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The rear diff. in the RA is fine. It can be rebuilt for not so much money. See Team Rip Engineering.
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Old Dec 20, 2011 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
I'm heading down your same road. Next season I'll be stepping up on track days (road, of course), and need to get the car set-up properly. If you want to see what the tranny is capable of for shifting speed/strength meet up with me and we can go for a ride. While my ROM is a complete Frankenstein of patches, shifting logic/rev-matching is about as perfect as we can get at this point. I do quite a bit of testing for Rich a la Bryan.
-Steve-
Interesting well I know in socal so I'm always down for that ride... Interesting to see where the RA can go.

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So, serious answer time:

1). Wait for the Dodson/Exedy clutches to come out. Both AMS and Shep use Dodson products in their builds. I use an Exedy clutch in my car, and this is what I would have purchased in my RA, if push came to shove. (Dodson GTR Clutches Review)

2). Once it is possible to reflash the TCU with an MR ROM, then power will be more easily manageable (hopefully). There are tricks and such that will allow more power. However, I have only ever seen them used on street cars. I am not sure how such a thing would hold up, on the track.

3). I hate to say this, but if it is a 5-speed that you want, buy a GSR.


As far as the 5 Speed.... It just a question, Buying a GSR is a simple answer but again, I dont want to be stuck in the mentality that I'm starting ALLLLL OVER in a Evo vs a Ralliart that hardly anyone pushes to the limits. I mean hell, my car isn't that much slower than the Fastest RA for 1/4 Time.... And I'm on a basemap tweaked but have much more room for perfection. If a Swap and a Standalone is all that's needed than MAYBE..... Just maybe I'll do it

I'm a little confused with your statement NFS about you and the exedy clutch? You+Ralliart+Exedy =Possible? I'll look into the dodson setup.....
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody

[B][I]Q: If MR's are Capable of making good power with over 400TQ can we RA guys do it?
Not currently, the programming in the RA has much lower limits then the MR. I can say the TCU development is finally going forward now though.

Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
Q: How much power will the Rear Diff and TC hold on the RA?
Same TC as the Evo. Rear Diff I believe is 99% the same as the 8/9. Cover is different but I think the insides/case is the same.

Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
Q: How can we get the SST Trans to shift into the next gear MUCH quicker, similar to GTR gear changes?
See TCU info above. RA needs S-Sport for the really fast gear changes. Which hopefully will be reality soon.

Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
Q: Will doing the SSP 10Disk Upgrade make the car shift any quicker or just support the increase in power?
It will help with increase in power but it will NOT clamp any harder without reprogramming capabilities.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
I'm a little confused with your statement NFS about you and the exedy clutch? You+Ralliart+Exedy =Possible? I'll look into the dodson setup.....
I have a GSR, not a Ralliart. For now, I am running an Exedy Stage 1 in my Evolution X. I had to "start over" in an Evolution. However, I was really lucky as my car already has a decent amount done to it. After I get done overhauling the transmission, which was in REALLY bad shape, she should be right about where I want her. I have a number of parts out being made for the X. Exedy is a brand that I am familiar with and trust. Dodson is the same. Those clutches are what I would buy, if I were in the market.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Not currently, the programming in the RA has much lower limits then the MR. I can say the TCU development is finally going forward now though.



Same TC as the Evo. Rear Diff I believe is 99% the same as the 8/9. Cover is different but I think the insides/case is the same.



See TCU info above. RA needs S-Sport for the really fast gear changes. Which hopefully will be reality soon.



It will help with increase in power but it will NOT clamp any harder without reprogramming capabilities.
Aww... Good ol Bryan.. Thanks for the Reply I need to ask you a favor I'll E-mail you.
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Old Dec 21, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab


see tcu info above. Ra needs s-sport for the really fast gear changes. Which hopefully will be reality soon.


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Very Exciting!!!!!!
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