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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 12:58 PM
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E85 on maxed out turbo?

Would e85 help out in hp numbers if the stock ra turbo is maxed out around 270whp?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 01:46 PM
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I'm admittedly uninformed but, no why would it? if a part maxes out at some value how would changing the fuel type help?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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e85 allows for more timing and cylinder pressure. I have not had the pleasure, but I would imagine even with the tiny RA turbo you could max out the MIVEC intake and add a handfull of degrees

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 03:17 PM
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^^ very true. kyle is doing great things with his car
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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I gained 25hp and 60tq going from 91 to E85
A big chunk of those gains are from the initial boost spike but the car is obviously faster on E85
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by sstevojr
e85 allows for more timing and cylinder pressure. I have not had the pleasure, but I would imagine even with the tiny RA turbo you could max out the MIVEC intake and add a handfull of degrees
ya i know e85 explodes much faster so wouldnt that require more air then cause there more gas going through?
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I gained 25hp and 60tq going from 91 to E85
A big chunk of those gains are from the initial boost spike but the car is obviously faster on E85
stock ra turbo?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bwanner
ya i know e85 explodes much faster so wouldnt that require more air then cause there more gas going through?

stock ra turbo?

Actually E-85 burns slower than regular pump, that with the additional cooling properties in the ethanol allow you to run more timing/boost without knock.


Yup, Stock RA turbo with AEM Intake, X intercooler, UR upper & Lower pipes, 1000cc injectors, Ultimate racing turbo back exhaust, and a 3-port

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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
Actually E-85 burns slower than regular pump, that with the additional cooling properties in the ethanol allow you to run more timing/boost without knock.


Yup, Stock RA turbo with AEM Intake, X intercooler, UR upper & Lower pipes, 1000cc injectors, Ultimate racing turbo back exhaust, and a 3-port
What are you running for boost and do you know your whp #'s?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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What are you running for boost and do you know your whp #'s?

233whp/ 258tq on 91---24psi spike, tappering down a lot by redline
258whp/ 322tq on e85--27psi spike, tappering down a lot by redline


This was on a Mustang Dyno
Didnt get a baseline but other stock Ralliarts have dynoed in the 190-200WHP range.
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 05:28 PM
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That is one hell of a torque punch, good times!!
We still going to meet up for some track days 2mb?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 06:08 PM
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Anthony... You gotta give me a ride in the car...
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 2muchboost
233whp/ 258tq on 91---24psi spike, tappering down a lot by redline
258whp/ 322tq on e85--27psi spike, tappering down a lot by redline


This was on a Mustang Dyno
Didnt get a baseline but other stock Ralliarts have dynoed in the 190-200WHP range.
Do you have quarter mile time btw?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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why does your boost taper down a lot?
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Old Jan 5, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pbassist12
why does your boost taper down a lot?
Cause it's the stock RA turbo... lol
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Old Jan 6, 2012 | 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaKennyBody
Cause it's the stock RA turbo... lol

good point.. lol good thing im upgrading
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