im not against it at all. i like that CBRD came out with the RAD. i just believe if you look hard enough and find the right parts, you can do an X swap for close to the same price, which leaves you room to go further IF you want to. im not slamming the idea of the RAD, go for it absolutely.

im just saying that when u get the RAD you might be like so many people and after a while realize you want more power... its the bug and it happens more often than most think lol. to each his own and good luck with the RAD. CBRD makes great stuff.

 

Yeah I hear ya on that. Myself personally was going to go with the rad but opted for the X because just like u said u can get the swap for about the same price if u shop around. It just seems like in every Rad thread Ive seen I see people trying to talk the OP into a td05 instead of the rad. Like u said to each his own.

 

To be honest, in the event anything catastrophic ever happens to my car, I've kept all my OEM parts as backup if I ever need to revert back for a major warranty issue (SST, Engine, etc.).

For $200, I'd rather have a backup stock turbo and not have to worry about.

I understand the RAD Lite looks "stock" but if they ever opened it up or something...

Plus in the event I ever busted something in my turbo down the road (unlikely but one never knows), I could actually have a backup so I'm not out of a car (since this is also my DD).

Thanks for the suggestion though! Appreciated.

 

The trouble is, if you ever need a major warranty work and they are not a tune friendly shop, they will void you anyways from your ECU tune. If they are a tune friendly shop...well they won't care about the RAD. But yes, having a backup turbo just in case isn't a bad plan either. In fact I'd say that is a pretty cheap insurance policy if you can get the second turbo for 200 bucks.

 

I have my original stock tune from the car also if I need to revert back as well. You have to have a contingency plan with a $10,000+ transmission haha!

 

The stealership can tell if you've flashed your ecu and how many times you've done it. Just so you know

 

Ah....oh well. I guess I'll have to hope nothing happens but I'd still rather have everything OEM worst case. My dealership has been pretty good so far.

 

And we can also reset the flash counter. They can never see what was flashed if you go back to stock, just that it was. They have to PROVE the mod caused the issue. good luck proving that the fact the flash counter is up by a few hundred means that's the issue if you have no idea what was flashed to it. At least in the states they do.

 

except that if you add ANYTHING else (like fuel pump in this thread), you're already in X turbo price range

I'll never understand why RA guys still love this turbo

 

Partially true statement

When my car had the transmission replaced, it was flashed back to stock and passed ALL of HQ Mitsubishi's requirements for warranty work.

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/9885757-post77.html

 

If that is true. If they can't really tell unless they look deeper into it, then it's really good news for tunes gone bad for warranty work!

 

We are getting way off topic here guys... And for those of you who want to debate the RAD v. X topic, there's already a thread for that: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/09...o-upgrade.html

 

It turns out no fuel system upgrades are required so:

$895 RAD Lite (+2 hours max. install, simple bolt-on turbo swap)

VS

$700-$800 EvoX set-up (incl. all necessary parts, mostly used) (+4-5 hours of labour) + $350 (new long downpipe to match up to EvoX turbo, cannot use my existing Ralliart one)

So the EvoX set up is at least 30-40% more cost wise (after labour) since I have to replace my long downpipe that I already have (which is costly).

Also, buying someone's used EvoX parts....who knows what kind of use they've been through. When you get the RAD Lite, it's basically a brand-new turbo with all new parts.

Cudos to anyone who did an X-swap. Personally speaking, my set-up is done already for an RA turbo in terms of other mods, and upgrading my turbo's internals and keeping all the OEM fitments is just much simpler especially from an installation stand point.

To each their own! So I at you jk

 

1. RAD does not require fuel system upgrades - so this thread should have ended at "not worth it". for some reason, people were posting in hopes that this would add power - which spewed the whole "just go X turbo" debate instead

2. Mitsu did far more reliability testing than CBRD (not saying CBRD isn't reliable, but Mitsu has the resources to do more reliability testing). You do realize you're forcing a bigger wheel in a turbo with the RAD, and spinning/flowing it past the original function/intention of the OEM RA turbo and it's housing

but I'll just leave it at that. already off-topic

Don't bother upgrading the fuel pump with the RAD. End Thread.

 

My $0.02
Put in the fuel pump, and injectors.
Install the RAD and get a set of AMS TMP cams (actually a set of MX1 would probably be better), e-85 that beotch....and duck