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Fourdoor Mar 27, 2010 03:34 PM

12's on stock turbo running E-85!
 
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Well guys,

Only change from my first 12 second time slip from last year is that this one was on E-85 instead of 93 octane, and EVO VIII MR wheels with Advan tires instead of Enkies with Blizzaks.

The stock fuel system can only handle a few seconds at high boost / heavy load before I go lean. Running through the gears, boost falls off fast enough that this isn't a problem until I get into 5th gear. After 3 seconds in 5th gear at over 21 psi of boost (and over 100% duty cycle on stock injectors) I start to go lean and have to let off the throttle.

Even with this issue I was able to pull a 12.916 @ 102.81 I was planning to crank up the boost higher, and advance the timing... but with this issue I saw no reason to push any harder on the stock fuel system.

Here is the time slip:

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/at...stock-turbo-ru

Keith

secondchace Mar 27, 2010 03:53 PM

new fuel pump > new injectors.

good time though :)

Fourdoor Mar 27, 2010 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by secondchace (Post 8139119)
new fuel pump > new injectors.

good time though :)

Thanks!

I am getting upgraded cams, ported intake manifold, and the double pumper fuel system with 1000 cc injectors in the next week or so installed and tuned by Buschur Racing on E-85... just waiting for the cams to come in :)

Keith

GiLizILL Mar 27, 2010 04:07 PM

was expecting a higher trap with e85, none the less. good job

Fourdoor Mar 27, 2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Eeboh (Post 8139143)
was expecting a higher trap with e85, none the less. good job

Second slip has my best mph (104.4) and keep in mind I am letting off the throttle in 5th gear before the end of the track due to going lean from needing the fuel system upgrades.

Keith

GST Motorsports Mar 27, 2010 08:49 PM

Nice congrats on the time Keith.

btw, picked up the sportback today. ;)

- Bryan

Fourdoor Mar 28, 2010 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by GST Motorsports (Post 8139714)
Nice congrats on the time Keith.

btw, picked up the sportback today. ;)

- Bryan

What color did you get? What options? What ROM ID? :)

Keith

GST Motorsports Mar 28, 2010 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by Fourdoor (Post 8140028)
What color did you get? What options? What ROM ID? :)

Keith

White with Recaro package.

Haven't pulled the ROM yet. It's on the to-do list for tomorrow. :)

- Bryan

laksman91 Mar 28, 2010 12:11 AM

Awesome times! did you do a complete tune overhaul with the E85?


Originally Posted by GST Motorsports (Post 8139714)
Nice congrats on the time Keith.

btw, picked up the sportback today. ;)

- Bryan

congrats Bryan on the acquisition

Fourdoor Mar 28, 2010 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by laksman91 (Post 8140030)
Awesome times! did you do a complete tune overhaul with the E85?

Nope. Due to the need for larger injectors and fuel system upgrade I chose not to do a new custom tune for the car. Just re-scaling the injectors got me to the point where the car is fine for daily driving and even "spirited" driving as long as it doesn't involve a long pull in a single gear resulting in leaning out the engine... so I will leave it as is until I pun in the fuel system, cams, and ported intake manifold.

Keith

Ladogaboy Mar 28, 2010 06:34 PM

Nice time!

So, do we know for sure that the RA fuel injectors are smaller than the EVO's? Any idea of the cc's for the stock RA injectors?

orange_rally Mar 28, 2010 07:18 PM

nice run i just pull out a 12.95 @104 mph on stock tires with 93 oct tune at 22 psi and im running rich a lot so no problem here with the injectors!!! so i can expect going lower than that next week with fine tunning here my slip with a pic of my car

http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6633090_n.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._5754835_n.jpg

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6837764_n.jpg

athmak15 Mar 29, 2010 12:01 PM

Very nice. Injectors and fuel pump and you'll be golden!

tre Mar 29, 2010 07:48 PM

nice runs!

don't mean to hijack. but orangerally what mods do you have done?

orange_rally Mar 29, 2010 07:53 PM

UR turbo back, UR intake, UR hardpipes (uicp and licp), AMS boost pill and tweaked ecuflash with 7-8 hours of testing but still runnin very rich so might be able to get better but @ 26 psi was doin 13.2 and now im doing 22 psi and runnin better i played with the timing and the mivec with a 93 oct tune


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