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total0wnage May 11, 2013 01:24 PM

ACD Pump same as Evo IX??
 
Does anyone know if the our pumps are same as EVO IX? I spoke to someone before and they said the guts and most of its same but not sure if its direct swap. If its a straight swap then I can easily get my hands a low mileage evo ix pump cheap.

Ruff-Shaw May 12, 2013 07:17 PM

No pumps are not same , what exactly do you need to know

total0wnage May 12, 2013 09:00 PM

My pump is dead, i came across a IX pump just wondering if it would work since it was cheap. Im trying to find a solution but dont have $600 to spend on rebuild right now

DatRAzn May 13, 2013 06:13 AM

The pump in my car has been dead for over a year now (no desire to fix), you can drive with it inop still. You'll just lose the nifty center diff locking, the drivetrain will be somewhat similar to a 4x4 truck. :lol:.

Get frugal, and save up money to get it rebuilt or replaced correctly. I don't believe one from the VIII/IX will fit correctly, however an X pump should be a direct swap.

Ruff-Shaw May 13, 2013 09:22 AM

Can't swap Evo x to Ralliart either.

03chi-town0Z May 13, 2013 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by DetroitRA (Post 10804151)
The pump in my car has been dead for over a year now (no desire to fix), you can drive with it inop still. You'll just lose the nifty center diff locking, the drivetrain will be somewhat similar to a 4x4 truck. :lol:.

Get frugal, and save up money to get it rebuilt or replaced correctly. I don't believe one from the VIII/IX will fit correctly, however an X pump should be a direct swap.



Originally Posted by Ruff-Shaw (Post 10804433)
Can't swap Evo x to Ralliart either.

I know they're not the same part, but I'm curious if this is actually the case because the castings look the same, but the second set of ports is just not drilled through on the RA pump. I've been wondering if you could just install some generic plugs on the unused ports and rewire the connectors...

DatRAzn May 13, 2013 06:32 PM

Plug up the AYC ports and rewire the rest? Sounds like it might work to me.

It'd probably be cheapest, or most effective, to have acd-tuning rebuild the ACD pump in any case. I believe that they use better material that's less likely to corrode.

Ruff-Shaw May 14, 2013 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 03chi-town0Z (Post 10805065)
I know they're not the same part, but I'm curious if this is actually the case because the castings look the same, but the second set of ports is just not drilled through on the RA pump. I've been wondering if you could just install some generic plugs on the unused ports and rewire the connectors...

It won't fit . You don't have clearance for IX pump and you would need heavy mods to do with no guarantee that motor will run with ecu. I tried this and can tell you from my experience it is most economical to rebuild your existing pump I did many with great results.

DatRAzn May 14, 2013 05:56 AM

^03chi is talking about trying to retrofit an X pump.

Did you try both the IX and X pumps? Or just the IX?

Ruff-Shaw May 14, 2013 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by DetroitRA (Post 10805818)
^03chi is talking about trying to retrofit an X pump.

Did you try both the IX and X pumps? Or just the IX?

Pump from X fits for Ralliart however you will need to close 2 fluid lines on pump and fabricate plugs for 2 solenoids ( or just leave solenoids in place ) Electrical plugs are same. Problem is that Evo x pump cost more than one for Ralliart so I don't see point doing this.

03chi-town0Z May 14, 2013 07:15 AM

More availability in used part market from people removing pumps for race applications and the overall higher number of X's produced vs RalliArt

Ruff-Shaw May 14, 2013 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by 03chi-town0Z (Post 10805922)
More availability in used part market from people removing pumps for race applications and the overall higher number of X's produced vs RalliArt

That is correct , however most guys keeping old pumps in garage as non working spares and won't sell them.


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