It's slower than the IX AND
The worst thing about the evo x is having to lug around a 3500 pound car plus passengers on a 2.0 engine what was mistibushi thinking. Their so stupid sometimes. Whoever desined the evo x is a fu(king idiot he completly ruined the evo X. Mitisubishi thought they were going to take us up for suckers, yea right. If mitisubishi continues their stupidty along with their evo x designer the evo line will most likly be terminated. It goes to show how stupid people can get just to make an extra buck. The evo 9 will most likly afect the market in the same way the supra has but only worse since it was produced for only one year. You evo 9 owners better hold on to your evo 9's. Because it surly is the last of it's great kind.
Last edited by chrsevx; Dec 15, 2007 at 09:18 PM.
IX MR is 9.5, not a trim level like in the US, so interms of gradual performance increase, it goes like this:
VII RS
VIII RS
VIII MR RS
IX RS
IX MR RS
From what I remember, RS - 5spd, RSII - 6spd but with regular RS weight reduction
No, VI TME itself is nothing special that different bumper, interior and titanium turbo for all trims. VI RS is almost the same as VI TME RS, it is not a holy grail of all EVO's, it is just a special edition of VI before they change to VII.
The fith gear run was FQ-320 vs VI TME with some aftermarket parts. Vicky stated that she wanted VI to win, so it was a biased race to begin with. FQ-320 isn't much quicker than stock, probably much worse in every case than JDM IX RS except straight line.
VII RS
VIII RS
VIII MR RS
IX RS
IX MR RS
From what I remember, RS - 5spd, RSII - 6spd but with regular RS weight reduction
No, VI TME itself is nothing special that different bumper, interior and titanium turbo for all trims. VI RS is almost the same as VI TME RS, it is not a holy grail of all EVO's, it is just a special edition of VI before they change to VII.
The fith gear run was FQ-320 vs VI TME with some aftermarket parts. Vicky stated that she wanted VI to win, so it was a biased race to begin with. FQ-320 isn't much quicker than stock, probably much worse in every case than JDM IX RS except straight line.
Was the Evo VI in the Fifth Gear shootout a TME? It had none of the TME cosmetics (bumber, wheels, interior colours). It looked like a regular Evo VI GSR with an exhaust. Which does bias the test, but then the IX was a FQ320 which also has an exhaust (and air filter I think?). So yeah it wasn't the best test, but I still think it has some relevance. I think what the test showed is that even if the VI wasn't quicker it still doesn't look like the IX moved on much in overall performance from the VI.
Btw The TME was a bit different to the FQ series. It was Mitsubishi Japan thing and involved no more HP. The modifications were to the aerodynamics, the titanium turbo (already found on the RS model), a front LSD (also on the RS), new springs (with lower ride height) and some small cosmetic changes inside and out. It was offered in GSR, RSII and RS form the same as the original Evo VI. There was no weight reduction but I think the most commonly found TME is the RSII model which was lighter than the GSR (lacked climate control and some sound deadening from what I can remember, maybe lighter glass too). I have a brochure for it some where.
Btw The TME was a bit different to the FQ series. It was Mitsubishi Japan thing and involved no more HP. The modifications were to the aerodynamics, the titanium turbo (already found on the RS model), a front LSD (also on the RS), new springs (with lower ride height) and some small cosmetic changes inside and out. It was offered in GSR, RSII and RS form the same as the original Evo VI. There was no weight reduction but I think the most commonly found TME is the RSII model which was lighter than the GSR (lacked climate control and some sound deadening from what I can remember, maybe lighter glass too). I have a brochure for it some where.
no it wasn't TME it was a hooked up VI GSR.
The TME have more what you posted and why i said it is unfair to say the VI is faster then IX. The TME is a factory hooked up limited evo:
first:
it was 2998 or 9 lbs. and the top speed is less then 150 mph. i know it was 240 km/h.
Larger FMIC
larger oil cooler
different pistons
Titanium-aluminum turbine wheel
it was lowered for tarmac and special tuned
Also was tuned by ralliart/ecu/ it had around officialy at crank 330 hp/ but on dyno sometimes 330 at wheel/
and this is just the performance part of it.
Also the last homologated rally car ever made from Mitshu the CP9A chassie... then the rules changed in 2000, so the Mitshu didn't needed to sell legal race cars to being in the WRC.
The TME was like the closing ceremony for that chassie and for Tommi Makinen.
No wonder even in the Mitshubishi called it 6 and a half... since didn't fit in the VI category at all.
The TME have more what you posted and why i said it is unfair to say the VI is faster then IX. The TME is a factory hooked up limited evo:
first:
it was 2998 or 9 lbs. and the top speed is less then 150 mph. i know it was 240 km/h.
Larger FMIC
larger oil cooler
different pistons
Titanium-aluminum turbine wheel
it was lowered for tarmac and special tuned
Also was tuned by ralliart/ecu/ it had around officialy at crank 330 hp/ but on dyno sometimes 330 at wheel/
and this is just the performance part of it.
Also the last homologated rally car ever made from Mitshu the CP9A chassie... then the rules changed in 2000, so the Mitshu didn't needed to sell legal race cars to being in the WRC.
The TME was like the closing ceremony for that chassie and for Tommi Makinen.
No wonder even in the Mitshubishi called it 6 and a half... since didn't fit in the VI category at all.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Dec 16, 2007 at 06:44 AM.
^^^^ that is a BS comparision. The VI not even factory hooked up. just check out the exhaust on it.So stop that BS about it. I had VI for 2 years, i had VIII 1 and a half, now i have IX. The IX is the fastest. Period. The only fastest VI is a TME wich is special edition kind a like the FQ.
But that is my point. No special editions etc. just plain factory comparision. I think that is a fair one. Since we know , only with ecu flash + dropp in not more, the evo makes a hell of a difference.
That is why i love this car.
Actually I was going over the newest Car and Driver times for the X vs their times for the '03 VIII, and they are nearly identical:
0-60:
X: 5.0 s
VIII: 5.0 s
1/4 Mile (s @ mph):
X: 13.8 @ 102
VIII: 13.6 @ 101
Keep in mind this is with the X GSR 5MT. The X MR TC-SST could possibly be quicker if they ever work the bugs out of it.
EDIT: I'm just theorizing, but let's assume the TC-SST is slightly less aggressive off the line than sidestepping the the 5MT at 5K rpm, so it doesn't break itself, and is 0.1 seconds slower to 60' (so maybe it cuts a 2.0s instead of a 1.9). Let's also assume each shift of the TC-SST (in super sport mode) happens in such an insignificant amount of time, there is no appreciable time spent off-power. Let's also assume that each gearshift of the 5MT takes ~0.1 seconds, needing 3 shifts total to get it down the 1/4 mile. Well...that would put the time right at 13.6 @ 102...which is exactly as fast as the first generation Evo VIII's we got here according to C&D...but with a 1mph increase in trap speed.
As one of the early adopters of the VIII, having the smallest turbo, no ACD, no front LSD, no MIVEC, etc. The X looks now to be a HUGE upgrade since you get (about) all the straight line performance, plus all the extras like fancy diffs, nicer interior, paddle shifters, etc. Plus I don't think anyone would argue a X would outperform a USDM 1st gen VIII around a track. I am one of those people who thinks the X looks a lot nicer too, especially since I've never gotten used to the "beak" on my VIII even after all these years, but could never justify the cost of putting a different front end on her. I'm not running to the dealership just yet, but the X is looking more and more appealing...especially since my VIII is down right now with a mysterious fuel pump issue that left the harness charred...
0-60:
X: 5.0 s
VIII: 5.0 s
1/4 Mile (s @ mph):
X: 13.8 @ 102
VIII: 13.6 @ 101
Keep in mind this is with the X GSR 5MT. The X MR TC-SST could possibly be quicker if they ever work the bugs out of it.
EDIT: I'm just theorizing, but let's assume the TC-SST is slightly less aggressive off the line than sidestepping the the 5MT at 5K rpm, so it doesn't break itself, and is 0.1 seconds slower to 60' (so maybe it cuts a 2.0s instead of a 1.9). Let's also assume each shift of the TC-SST (in super sport mode) happens in such an insignificant amount of time, there is no appreciable time spent off-power. Let's also assume that each gearshift of the 5MT takes ~0.1 seconds, needing 3 shifts total to get it down the 1/4 mile. Well...that would put the time right at 13.6 @ 102...which is exactly as fast as the first generation Evo VIII's we got here according to C&D...but with a 1mph increase in trap speed.
As one of the early adopters of the VIII, having the smallest turbo, no ACD, no front LSD, no MIVEC, etc. The X looks now to be a HUGE upgrade since you get (about) all the straight line performance, plus all the extras like fancy diffs, nicer interior, paddle shifters, etc. Plus I don't think anyone would argue a X would outperform a USDM 1st gen VIII around a track. I am one of those people who thinks the X looks a lot nicer too, especially since I've never gotten used to the "beak" on my VIII even after all these years, but could never justify the cost of putting a different front end on her. I'm not running to the dealership just yet, but the X is looking more and more appealing...especially since my VIII is down right now with a mysterious fuel pump issue that left the harness charred...
Last edited by machron1; Dec 17, 2007 at 07:20 PM.
^^ LOL we might get all the JDM goodness this time around, but I'm willing to bet they are still working out the final shift map/launch control in the TC-SST for the USA, with warranty avoidance in mind more so than any other country. After all, this is the land of the standing 1/4 mile, and while everyone else in the world is taking their Evos through tight winding roads, we are flogging it down the local drag strip...then showing up Monday morning at the stealership with "manufacturing defects" they should fix for free.
ACTUALLY i was going over the newest car and driver times for the x vs their times for the '03 viii. they are actually nearly identical.
X: 0-60, 5.0 s
VIII: 0-60, 5.0 s
X: 1/4, 13.8 @ 102
VIII: 1/4, 13.6 @ 101
keep in mind this is with the X GSR 5MT. The X MR TC-SST could possibly be quicker if they ever work the bugs out of it.
X: 0-60, 5.0 s
VIII: 0-60, 5.0 s
X: 1/4, 13.8 @ 102
VIII: 1/4, 13.6 @ 101
keep in mind this is with the X GSR 5MT. The X MR TC-SST could possibly be quicker if they ever work the bugs out of it.
They focusing things wich is hard to get or achive for a regular people . Because if would be other way , the evo wouldn't be any different from the SRT4... Right?







