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Please look at this log Tuning guru's
Please take a look at this log and tell me if you all think its tuned safely enough. I'm just paranoid about it I guess lol some parts seem a little lean to me.
its a 3rd gear pull. the car is tuned for 23lbs on pump gas. but here I'm only running about 18-19 . because when it gets colder it will get leaner.
log is at the bottom of the page:
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its a 3rd gear pull. the car is tuned for 23lbs on pump gas. but here I'm only running about 18-19 . because when it gets colder it will get leaner.
log is at the bottom of the page:
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...=309993&page=2
Last edited by Johnboy1065; Nov 29, 2007 at 10:52 PM.
Please take a look at this log and tell me if you all think its tuned safely enough. I'm just paranoid about it I guess lol some parts seem a little lean to me.
its a 3rd gear pull. the car is tuned for 23lbs on pump gas. but here I'm only running about 18-19 . because when it gets colder it will get leaner.
its a 3rd gear pull. the car is tuned for 23lbs on pump gas. but here I'm only running about 18-19 . because when it gets colder it will get leaner.
Now thats funny, right at the same time...
I honestly think it looks ok. Its giving some knock, but AFR's in the low to mid 12's have always done me the right way. I have never experienced any problems. But based on how paranoid you are I would richen it up a little bit. Wont hurt anything.
Hope some other people on here can give you some more advice.
Hope some other people on here can give you some more advice.
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I honestly think it looks ok. Its giving some knock, but AFR's in the low to mid 12's have always done me the right way. I have never experienced any problems. But based on how paranoid you are I would richen it up a little bit. Wont hurt anything.
Hope some other people on here can give you some more advice.
Hope some other people on here can give you some more advice.
thanks for the help
no, knock sum gives you the total number of knocks at any given point... Always use this method over voltage...
I would fatten it up a little bit to be on the safe side... Overall the tune looks good...
Cheers-
Erich
I would fatten it up a little bit to be on the safe side... Overall the tune looks good...
Cheers-
Erich
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I'm kinda a newbie lol. also is there a way to get a knocksum. not just the knock sensor voltage???
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But like I said, I wouldnt try it myself unless you have a good idea already of how to do it.
What is your knock threshold voltage set at on the AEM? That is the point that the EMS actually believes there is true knock and then pulls timing and or adds fuel.
I only seen a few spots of what I would probably think is true knock those being the voltage around and at 3volts
Your A/F's dont look too too lean mostly in the high 11's , probably higher than what most consider safe , but each car is different cant base it off of what someone else runs
Bottom line is if there is very little to no knock happening dont worry about the A/F's it must be working with your setup. Now if you get the same knock events in the same location of a pull everytime the obviously a small adjustment needs to be made at that point.
keep logging knock and all the other goodness you got there and it will tell you what you need
I only seen a few spots of what I would probably think is true knock those being the voltage around and at 3volts
Your A/F's dont look too too lean mostly in the high 11's , probably higher than what most consider safe , but each car is different cant base it off of what someone else runs
Bottom line is if there is very little to no knock happening dont worry about the A/F's it must be working with your setup. Now if you get the same knock events in the same location of a pull everytime the obviously a small adjustment needs to be made at that point.
keep logging knock and all the other goodness you got there and it will tell you what you need
Just an example as to how each car is different:
I have a buddy has an Evo , same turbo kit / turbo / injectors / stock motor same as me/ Same tuner in Dave Buschur.
He gets a tune for 93/meth , I install meth same setup as him.
He lets me load his tune , now I have been to the 1/4mile track several times with my buschur pump gas map and would trap consistent 122 mph boosting around 24 psi.
I load his meth tune with me spraying meth and do some logs on the street , all everything looks good very little knock events and now I got my boost up to 27-28psi on his tune
I go to the track first pass car go's 120 mph , log is at 27 mph, ok maybe something weird , I make a second pass with a small adjustment on boost , again only 120 mph @ 28 psi on the log , so now its like WTF!
I say the hell with the meth pull the fuse , load my pump map turn the boost down to 24 psi and immediatly trap 122 mph for the next 3 passes right back to where I was.
Sorry for the small rant just wanted to point out how differnent things on other cars can be even if they are virtually the same setup and the same tuner, some works for others and dont for another
I have a buddy has an Evo , same turbo kit / turbo / injectors / stock motor same as me/ Same tuner in Dave Buschur.
He gets a tune for 93/meth , I install meth same setup as him.
He lets me load his tune , now I have been to the 1/4mile track several times with my buschur pump gas map and would trap consistent 122 mph boosting around 24 psi.
I load his meth tune with me spraying meth and do some logs on the street , all everything looks good very little knock events and now I got my boost up to 27-28psi on his tune
I go to the track first pass car go's 120 mph , log is at 27 mph, ok maybe something weird , I make a second pass with a small adjustment on boost , again only 120 mph @ 28 psi on the log , so now its like WTF!
I say the hell with the meth pull the fuse , load my pump map turn the boost down to 24 psi and immediatly trap 122 mph for the next 3 passes right back to where I was.
Sorry for the small rant just wanted to point out how differnent things on other cars can be even if they are virtually the same setup and the same tuner, some works for others and dont for another
for a 35r, why does your boost drop down to 17/18 psi? being you have a 2.3, your boost looks very laggy....i have seen 37r's with better spool-up....not knocking you, just think you need to look into your boost set-up.
i think you need to change your map filter to something like 6 or 8 to get rid of the jagged boost signal.
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it looks fine to me..you get a hit here & there of det., but nothing to be concerned of IMO.
is your aem set-up to kilometers for speed? if your running a ait sensor, if the file is set-up correctly, this shouldnt be a concern, as the aem can adjust fueling for inlet air temp differences.
for a 35r, why does your boost drop down to 17/18 psi? being you have a 2.3, your boost looks very laggy....i have seen 37r's with better spool-up....not knocking you, just think you need to look into your boost set-up.
i think you need to change your map filter to something like 6 or 8 to get rid of the jagged boost signal.
is your aem set-up to kilometers for speed? if your running a ait sensor, if the file is set-up correctly, this shouldnt be a concern, as the aem can adjust fueling for inlet air temp differences.
for a 35r, why does your boost drop down to 17/18 psi? being you have a 2.3, your boost looks very laggy....i have seen 37r's with better spool-up....not knocking you, just think you need to look into your boost set-up.
i think you need to change your map filter to something like 6 or 8 to get rid of the jagged boost signal.
set/sensors/manifold pressure sensor / options, about mid way down is your map filter value. this filter will help minimize the oscillations that the sensors see's due to a number of reasons...this wont make your boost signal lazy; with a 6 or 8...but if you made it 20, it would.
this filter helps reduce the likelyhood of multiple cells being used when running through the revs, maybe adding fuel, leaning out or addidnr or removing timing unnecessarily.
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open your cal file iwthin aem pro, go to
set/sensors/manifold pressure sensor / options, about mid way down is your map filter value. this filter will help minimize the oscillations that the sensors see's due to a number of reasons...this wont make your boost signal lazy; with a 6 or 8...but if you made it 20, it would.
this filter helps reduce the likelyhood of multiple cells being used when running through the revs, maybe adding fuel, leaning out or addidnr or removing timing unnecessarily.
set/sensors/manifold pressure sensor / options, about mid way down is your map filter value. this filter will help minimize the oscillations that the sensors see's due to a number of reasons...this wont make your boost signal lazy; with a 6 or 8...but if you made it 20, it would.
this filter helps reduce the likelyhood of multiple cells being used when running through the revs, maybe adding fuel, leaning out or addidnr or removing timing unnecessarily.


