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05ah8james May 29, 2010 06:04 PM

Running extremely rich at startup...
 
I'm new to AEM EMS, but I'm a bit confused over something. I set everything up as it should, scale the injectors, and everything seems to be good. When I start it up however the UEGO reads 10.0-11.0/1 afr. Something I did notice is in the parameters is that the "Target AFR" reads 7.32...

I'm lost, any suggestions?

05ah8james May 30, 2010 11:43 AM

Bump

EvoVIII :D May 30, 2010 02:31 PM

Im having the same problem with mine, it just started happening. The AFRs usually even out for me after about two miles. Sometimes the fuel pump primes extremely fast, faster than normal.

05ah8james May 30, 2010 03:57 PM

Confusing...

EvoVIII :D May 30, 2010 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by 05ah8james (Post 8356369)
Confusing...

It is! And to make it worse, it doesnt happen everytime, every once in a while it acts normal.. Im leaning towards o2 sensor

05ah8james May 30, 2010 04:43 PM

But what about the parameter of "Target AFR" that reads 7.32?

05ah8james May 30, 2010 07:02 PM

So I think I may have found the problem. My map voltage is reading 1.27volts at idle and making the engine load go nuts, so it's dumping fuel in the cylinders. So I guess I need a new AEM 5 bar map sensor

kreionic May 30, 2010 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by 05ah8james (Post 8354775)
I'm new to AEM EMS, but I'm a bit confused over something. I set everything up as it should, scale the injectors, and everything seems to be good. When I start it up however the UEGO reads 10.0-11.0/1 afr. Something I did notice is in the parameters is that the "Target AFR" reads 7.32...

I'm lost, any suggestions?

target o2 is o2 FB. Are you using o2 feedback? Chances are its either the FB tables or warm up enrichment.


Originally Posted by 05ah8james (Post 8356671)
So I think I may have found the problem. My map voltage is reading 1.27volts at idle and making the engine load go nuts, so it's dumping fuel in the cylinders. So I guess I need a new AEM 5 bar map sensor


Whats the map sensor reading with ign ON and car off. Whats the load and volts?

05ah8james May 30, 2010 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by kreionic (Post 8356688)
target o2 is o2 FB. Are you using o2 feedback? Chances are its either the FB tables or warm up enrichment.




Whats the map sensor reading with ign ON and car off. Whats the load and volts?

Volts with the car off is still 1.2-1.3volts. The load is 98-100kpa

BillSpec May 31, 2010 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by 05ah8james (Post 8356738)
Volts with the car off is still 1.2-1.3volts. The load is 98-100kpa

That is def. your problem. If you didnt have this issue before and your cal was running right before, then youre having MAP problems.

Paul Walkin May 31, 2010 08:13 PM

I'd replace the map and if you still have issues I'd check your warmup enrichment tables

itzwolf Jun 1, 2010 02:37 PM

Have you verified your AFR units is set to Gasoline? I suspect that it is not with "7.32" comment.

AEM after a fresh install is NOT set correctly to AFR Gasoline even though it may show that as the option. Go to the units setup menu and click something else such as Methanol, press apply, then set it back to the gasoline option and press apply again. Your AFR output should now read correctly.

EvoVIII :D Jun 1, 2010 02:48 PM


Originally Posted by 05ah8james (Post 8356671)
So I think I may have found the problem. My map voltage is reading 1.27volts at idle and making the engine load go nuts, so it's dumping fuel in the cylinders. So I guess I need a new AEM 5 bar map sensor

I ordered myself a new aem map sensor from amazon.com(they offered 1 day shipping so it will come tomorrow) for $163.xx . Ill let you know how it works for me

kreionic Jun 1, 2010 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by itzwolf (Post 8362177)
Have you verified your AFR units is set to Gasoline? I suspect that it is not with "7.32" comment.

AEM after a fresh install is NOT set correctly to AFR Gasoline even though it may show that as the option. Go to the units setup menu and click something else such as Methanol, press apply, then set it back to the gasoline option and press apply again. Your AFR output should now read correctly.

His target feedback was reading 7.32 not his actual a/f
target o2 saying 7.32 is just saying what the o2 feedback table is at that axis. Obviously if the map is set to target 7.32 o2 feedback is disabled.
Like one mention the voltage is off with the sensor. Id be looking in that area like you already did.{thumbup}

itzwolf Jun 2, 2010 07:31 AM

Yea, after reading it again more thoroughly when I had time to, I'd have to agree myself.

OP let us know how it goes.


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