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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:27 AM
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Just as a note guys which I am sure you all aware of. Any modding to ECU will void warranty in any ECU related issues.

Subaru always had this policy and I am sure Mitsubishi will too. Subaru could put almost any issue down to the ECU or aftermarket exhaust faults. So just be careful, that's all I am saying. A reflash may be good as it retains the stock ECU - that'd be nice!

I am sure that you can get an exhaust cheaper than that, fitted too.

If rjhug1 works for team, I am sure that they make good exhausts. I know one of the teams here make sensational evo exhausts.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Although power-wise I am down grading my car (from a 250kw Evo 4 WRX) I am going to keep it stock for a while so I can learn the car thoughrouly before modding it. But first off with be suspension (geometry and coil-overs). Then will come the power-ups as stated by "rjhug1".

rjhug1, which company do you work for? There is an Evo8 rally team based here in Perth being RT. Previously I had been affiliated with Subaru rally teams here on Perth.
What intentions do you have for the new Evo? Daily driver that goes and goes, or track time?

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My company is Advanced Motorsport Technologies. I also work for the ralliart team in GTP for the EVO 8. My car will be a daily driver but wil be heavily focused as a race/track car. Performance 1st as such!!

As far as warranty, i have dealt with subaru and nissan for years with mods and all in all they have been really good. I cant see mitsubishi being much different. It all depends how extensive the mods are and what the failure is (if it happens). Legally, the company must prove the mod has caused a failure and its damn hard to do. As in impossible.

As far as APS, quality is really bad and performance is average. Heaps better alternatives and value.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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My company is Advanced Motorsport Technologies. I also work for the ralliart team in GTP for the EVO 8. My car will be a daily driver but wil be heavily focused as a race/track car. Performance 1st as such!!

As far as warranty, i have dealt with subaru and nissan for years with mods and all in all they have been really good. I cant see mitsubishi being much different. It all depends how extensive the mods are and what the failure is (if it happens). Legally, the company must prove the mod has caused a failure and its damn hard to do. As in impossible.

As far as APS, quality is really bad and performance is average. Heaps better alternatives and value.
Cheers for that.

Those Evos in the GTP go hard. love them!

Regarding warranty, I was talking from experience here in Perth with Subaru which si not good in any way. It is good to hear that other dealerships kept their heads and fixed warranties. Thanks for the info on it too. I'll take it all on board.

I am heavily involved with a Perth WRX car club, actually created the online very which mow has over 350 members (www.perth-wrx.com).
The Subaru service and dealers here were terrible and known for it. They were so bad that Subaru Aus took notice and started sweeping their staff. Finally all the dealerships in Perth closed down, now only 2 are new dealerships are left and are being run directly via Subaru Aus. Kinda like the Docklands stuff in Vic. From last reports they are much better.

Eh, Subaru smooobarooo anyways. Bring on Mitsubishi.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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Cheers for that.

Those Evos in the GTP go hard. love them!

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The EVOs in GTP are detuned, whilst most other makes have been given performance gains, so the EVOs won't lap the field. They have been hadicapped to the point where they are almost the slowest car in a straight line. An example between the EVO and STI is, EVO boost limit is 0.92bar whilst the STI is allowed 1.3bar. (13.5 psi vs 19 psi) . I know what my car like going from 19 to 13.5 psi. Feels like the hand brake has been applied.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rjhug1
As far as APS, quality is really bad and performance is average. Heaps better alternatives and value.
Could not disagree more.

Maybe value is only average, but the performance of my APS R/T kit was fan-***n-tastic!

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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qiksilvr3 - is your car a genuine Evo3? If so, could you post some pics!

That's one rare car you have there if it's the real mccoy.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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So APS is no good either due to quality or price or both. So anyone have any other suggestions?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Qiksilvr3: the GTP evo's are not detuned at all as far as IT and A/F they are very much tuned in those areas to perfection. But, you are certainly right about the boost, we had to run them at 0.93bar at winton with a 7600rpm limit while the sti is on 1.3bar and 8000rpm limit. So in that sence they are underpower from the factory a tad. In a straight line, the evo and sti is similar in alot of ways especially in acceleration. Top speed the sti is better cause it has more HP. The torque of the evo is a saving grace.

Evo8downunder; i guess it all depends on what your after as far as products. For the price APS charge, i could provide components that destroy the power figures and are alot better made. The unichip is aweful and having a universal elctronics board bought in from SA africa and sold as a ECU chip for $1200+ is pretty poor form. The boost module never holds well and the exhaust is junk (over priced for what you get and doesn't flow well at all). Of all three cars i have worked on that have had APS certainly like the difference when changing components. But an RT spec which you have is damn fast but there is faster for the dollars is what i'm saying.

30047; i would suggest have a look at products from all companies and look at what you they have to offer and compare with your demands. APS are good if your wanting mediocre products that are quiet and road legal. If performance is your no.1 goal or balance of both then i will let you know once we have finished the upgrade kit. At this stage it will consist of apexi power intakes, avc-r, cusco front pipe and halfya f1 muffler and retuning of the standard computer. A motec m400/m800 would also be made available. I'll keep you all posted!
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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rjhug1: Ill be keen on finding out more about your kits, so let me know as soon as your have some final prices and setups. Ill only be looking at a stage 1ish approach, around $3k to $4k in value at this stage.

How long til you have something solid "price and specs" in regards to exhaust and air intake?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Basically the pricing will be done very very soon. As far as specs, the details of the products are very close and the power gains will be certified as soon as i have them on the dyno. I'm very confident nothing will surpass it.

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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As far as I know, the cusco front pipe doesn't include a flex piece, which I would definitely want in an aftermarket exhaust. Can you confirm?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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rjhug1, where about is your shop?
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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For guys in Perth regarding places to go "when" you are ready to start modding, i recommmend:
Race Torque (osi park) - Lane
Revlimit Motorsport (Carlise) - Leigh
Wheels World (osi park - suspension specialists) - John

The two workshops at the top are/were active rally teams with much experience in the Lancer Evolutions for the current Asia Pacific rally and Rally Australia.

Feel free to contact them asking them about what you want to get done.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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rjhug1,

Just changed my opinion on what I was going to do - no confirmation yet but I was looking at APS 3.5 exhaust turbo back + custom cold air intake with Blitz SUS filter, APS intercoller water bottle relocater, Motec & any fuel pump / spark plug upgrades needed.

Now after reading your comments I think I need to more research - very keen in understanding more of what you have to offer so I will look up Advanced Motorsport Technologies...
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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Well im not sure what to do now either.

I was planning to push APS for some sort of stage 1 kit. Obviously with
exhaust
intake
unichip
which i was hoping to get 210-220kw@wheels with.

Although i am now leaning towards rjhug1, depending on how quick he can get some sort of kit or package together. :-)

Rmm Rmm, if all else fails ill probably try Exhaust technology for the exhaust. They did my WRX exhaust good.

Not sure about motec, wouldn't that be a huge job?

I do recomend autronic thou, if you can find some one good to tune it. The anti-lag is pretty sweet.

Also i have an EVO4 PnP autronic board for sale if anyone knows someone with an EVO4. Cost me $2500, so $1500 would be good for a sale price.
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