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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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The cusco pipe doesn't have a flex piece which i dont regard as a must, but the HKS pipe does which could be a good option. I'm looking into that at the moment.

RmmRmm, i dont believe there is any point in changing the fmic and if you were to do that then you certainly wouldn't use an APS one. An ARC type would be the best bet, but the standard cooler is still good for 1.4-1.5bar. Motec would be great but expensive, the mitsubishi ecu that we can reflash works just aswell (if not better) and is alot more financially friendly. I'll send some information to you soon via email and i'll post it all up on the forum. I cant strees enough how much i would lean away from the piggy back computer. Reflash, motec or autronic/power fc is a much better idea. Stay tuned guys!!
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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I cant strees enough how much i would lean away from the piggy back computer. Reflash, motec or autronic/power fc is a much better idea.
I 100% agree!!!!
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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Well i think its fair to say rjhug1 that your have our interest.

Well atleast mine anyway. :-)

Just try not to keep us hanging too long :-) "Note thats mean in jest" i think we are all short on patients due to mitsubishi draging the chain.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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rjhug1,

You have my attention - in particular the reflash sounds interesting (however if this is based on some UK research I would like to know how this picks up Australian and individual car characteristics - is it like an Ecutek or am I sowing my ignorance...?)

300477 - looks like I might be paying a visit to Exhaust Technology as well - actuall I paid a visit to him a month ago to start the conversation. Might pay to see what discount we could get by a collective buy?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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Rmm Rmm: Im in complete agreement. What about also investigating a collective buy regarding floor mats and pedels etc? I have to see the dealer some time late this week to resign the contract, due to the price change. I was thinking we could do that together and try and negotiate a reduced dealers delivery or something?
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Hey guys, i'll certainly post a thread once its finalised. What i can say it it will include something along the lines of

apexi power intake
cusco/HKS front pipe
3.5' catback piping
Halfya F1-spec muffler
Apexi AVC-r
ECU upgrade which will include a reflash or motec m400
Tein Flex/HA/RA coilover suspension
Apexi TT, apexi gauges
ARC BOV/FMIC

These are the products we are working on, pricing and what will co-incide with what is being worked on. Then the power figs can be gauranteed. I'm also confident that nothing on the market will exceed these as far as performance and quality, thus vale for money - as we have chosen the bvest available.

RmmRmm, with respect to the ecu flash it is something that has been developed here in australia and is along the lines of ecutek but better. There will be a few maps that will be set abnd they are based upon certain mods and boost. People in vic can have their cars tuned in realtime if they want. The actual software wont be available to the public, but different maps or updates would be made available at a much reduced cost in the future. I like the concept as no wire harnesses are touched and all the factory sensors remain active. The only parameters alteres would be IT, AF and revs.
I would be certainly interested in providing people from the forum a better rate.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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rjhug1,

Seriously interested - in particular the suspension inclusion makes it look like the one stop shop... fantastic actually, any approx on the price?

300477,

Darren was supposed to call us today to arrange a time when we go in to update contracts - gets some times but don't confirm then lets communicate to make sure we go in at the same time. Great idea, thanks.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 10:19 PM
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rjhug1: Sounds very good, Any chance we will have a final price on this by the end of the month?

Rmm Rmm: im very keen to go in to sign up together, let me know what day and time your thinking? and we can work it out. Do you know any of the other guys who are buying? Im guessing the more we can get involved the better?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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rjhug1: Sounds very good, Any chance we will have a final price on this by the end of the month?
More like the next week to a few days. Just finalising the ecu and dump pipe setup's.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 05:28 AM
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300477,

Unfortunately I do not know any of the others - I thought that Darren was saying that they were only getting 3 in Adelaide next week and the others were arriving in August / September... Happy that will be the only EVO8 drivers in Adelaide for a while!!

rjhug1,

Sounds like you have potentially 2 Adelaide customers - maybe a Melbourne road trip - stock the way there, tuned the way back...and hook up with some other 8 drivers in Melbourne? At this stage just crazy ideas while I wait for this car...
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 05:42 AM
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Qiksilvr3: the GTP evo's are not detuned at all as far as IT and A/F they are very much tuned in those areas to perfection. But, you are certainly right about the boost, we had to run them at 0.93bar at winton with a 7600rpm limit while the sti is on 1.3bar and 8000rpm limit. So in that sence they are underpower from the factory a tad. In a straight line, the evo and sti is similar in alot of ways especially in acceleration. Top speed the sti is better cause it has more HP. The torque of the evo is a saving grace.
rhug1, just to clear things up, I am involved with the other Ralliart GTP Evo 8 race car. I am fully aware that they are tuned to their max in relation to the measerly amount of boost they have to run. I am also aware of the mods that the other makes are allowed to run to keep pace with the "detuned EVOs".The EVOs are clearly the most disadvantaged car in the class. You must also be aware that the owner/driver of the car I help with can tune the factory Evo ecu to atleast match the power of the EVOs with Motecs etc., as the other Ralliart team car runs the tuned stock ecu as well.
The EVOs in GTP have been screwed with boost restrictions for the last 3 or 4 years since I have been involved. The STIs had been to run up to 1.4 bar 2 yrs ago. They have always been atleast .3 to.4 bar higher than the EVO.
The point I have been trying to make with all this is that it just shows how good EVOs are compared to the other makes in the GTP Championship.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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qiksilvr3 - is your car a genuine Evo3? If so, could you post some pics!

That's one rare car you have there if it's the real mccoy.
Yes it is a real EVO and not a body kitted GSR. The pic I have att is from a test &tune day at AIR last year. Ran 12.7 @ 108 with 4 cracked pistons. Motor now rebuilt. Also now has a large custom FMIC and piping. It also wears 17's on the road.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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Thats a nice ride - I just love Evo 3s. What happened to your front splitter - it's missing!

I would be interested in taking that car off your hands if you ever sell it.

Got any more pics?
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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Thanks, the splitter was not on the car when I bought and have not replaced it yet, but I have decided that the car needs it to complete the EVO3 look. Also the big custom fmic extends and inch or so below the front bar so am looking around for 1 at the moment. I am fitting a Walbro 255 fuel pump today. My Evo car club (GSR/EVO Club)is putting a display in the Adelaide Auto Salon this weekend and if the fuel pump works ok , will be putting it in the Dyno Shootout. The stock pump is failing at high boost. I have plenty of pics of the car but they are bigger than the 100kb size limit , so I don't think I can post them on here. There is another pic of it in the members rides section on the home page.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by qiksilvr3
rhug1, just to clear things up, I am involved with the other Ralliart GTP Evo 8 race car. I am fully aware that they are tuned to their max in relation to the measerly amount of boost they have to run. I am also aware of the mods that the other makes are allowed to run to keep pace with the "detuned EVOs".The EVOs are clearly the most disadvantaged car in the class. You must also be aware that the owner/driver of the car I help with can tune the factory Evo ecu to atleast match the power of the EVOs with Motecs etc., as the other Ralliart team car runs the tuned stock ecu as well.
The EVOs in GTP have been screwed with boost restrictions for the last 3 or 4 years since I have been involved. The STIs had been to run up to 1.4 bar 2 yrs ago. They have always been atleast .3 to.4 bar higher than the EVO.
The point I have been trying to make with all this is that it just shows how good EVOs are compared to the other makes in the GTP Championship.
I see what your saying for sure, i have always regarding tuning as the ecu parameters with respect to IT and AF. As with boost your not really tuning just allowing more air to flow. There are only two cars i know that run the factory ecu, being steve and mark. There is no doubt that the evo is seriously disadvantaged and i'm as frustrated as anyone with that, especially when boost was bumped back even further at winton. Plus the sti's are now running slotted rotors aswell. Like you said, it certainly shows how much quiker the evo's go. Pitty the public dont know and see this and they think all cars are virtually out of the factory. The VW of stokell has an open engine and engineers from VW germany to help along with the process. Where ric shaw looks as though he doesn't have the money to even attend eastern creek.
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