Help me Analyze my 1st Drag Race Please!
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Help me Analyze my 1st Drag Race Please!
Yesterday at the Evo vs. WRX Shootout I drag raced for the first time. I was hoping that people would make sense of the time slip for me and point out what needs help. Temp, was 86 degrees. Car has stock intercooler, pipes, intake etc. Does have cams and alky. 360WHP. Is that MPH right for my HP level?
R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
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I can't understand how I got such a good r/t and poor 60ft. I launched it hard. Somewhere abound 5800 with a quick slip and dump. I guess it must have been some wheel spin. Next time I will have someone video tape. What is the best I can ask for for a 60 foot time?
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1.8 is pretty good for your first time. It's the best I managed to cut last night (my first time).
We both should be able to bring down 60's to the 1.7/1.6 range.
1.81
5.32
8.21
I catch myself watcing the light instead of the tach.. so I'm not sure where I launch at.. somewhere around 4500-5500.
85.58mph
btw I'm running 264 cams/ TBE with cat/ upgraded IC and lower pipes/ stock airbox and needs a tune
We both should be able to bring down 60's to the 1.7/1.6 range.
1.81
5.32
8.21
I catch myself watcing the light instead of the tach.. so I'm not sure where I launch at.. somewhere around 4500-5500.
85.58mph
btw I'm running 264 cams/ TBE with cat/ upgraded IC and lower pipes/ stock airbox and needs a tune
Last edited by justchil; Aug 21, 2005 at 01:49 PM.
help me analyze mine
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259
If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259
If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
Originally Posted by gestalt
Yesterday at the Evo vs. WRX Shootout I drag raced for the first time. I was hoping that people would make sense of the time slip for me and point out what needs help. Temp, was 86 degrees. Car has stock intercooler, pipes, intake etc. Does have cams and alky. 360WHP. Is that MPH right for my HP level?
R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
First, reaction time has no bearing on your ET or MPH, so get that out of your head.
On the other hand, GREAT R/T...keep it up, but it only matters in competition (bracket or heads-up).60' - Not horrible, because I even ran 2 or 3 1.8 60's at E-town, and I haven't done worse than 1.79 in my last 30 runs or so. The track was slick, or at least the launch pad was...I was spinning all 4 tires with less power than you, so I assume you were spinning, too.
1/8th - Hmm, weird. You must have shifted 1-2 and 2-3 kinda slow, because your 8.2 at 85 is not very fast at all. I was doing 7.8 and 7.9 at 87-88 with similar 60's, which leads me to...
1/4 - Wow, 110mph and a 12.6? That means you were absolutely HAULING *** in the back half, which shows your true power. You picked up over 25mph and cut off a good bit of time in the back half. When I run 12.6x on pump gas, I only hit 107-108 mph, and that's with 8.0 in the 1/8th. You made up about 2/10ths on the back half compared to my 12.6 type runs. This means that with a good launch and better shifting, you'd probably see 112mph and some low 12s (12.3-12.4?).
HP - I can confirm that you are making good power, but I'd be hard pressed to believe 360whp. I would think more along the lines of 330-340, which is still very nice, but not quite 360. With 360, I would expect closer to 116mph. Remember that I dyno'd 282whp on a Dynojet when I ran my 12.64 at 107-108, then on the same setup I ran 12.22 at 111 with the addition of 104oct and some increased boost/leaner SAFC settings. That indicates a 30-40whp gain, which would put me near 320...
Originally Posted by twan
help me analyze mine
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259
If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259
If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
You should go to a local track and learn to get off the line, and then you will see EEEEEAAASSSSY 12s (no contest) and some serious mph. I would expect no less than 110mph on a full run with a good 60' and solid shifting. I think you could easily see et/mph that match your dyno numbers in the range of 12.5 at 110 or so. By "match," I mean they are within reason and close, though not quite all the way there. My 12.15 at 110.7 yesterday was probably at or near your 330whp/350wtq levels, but I don't/won't know until I get a dyno in that form. I'd happily do it if someone else would pay for it, haha...
Warrtalon thanks for shooting straight with me.
Ive been bitten by the drag bug and really want to persue this..............but it would be smart of me to get an ACT and move the evo off daily driver status before I get seriously into this...........ahh decisions decisions!
Ive been bitten by the drag bug and really want to persue this..............but it would be smart of me to get an ACT and move the evo off daily driver status before I get seriously into this...........ahh decisions decisions!
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Sorry, gestalt, I was beat from being in the sun all day while racing both Sat. and Sun. Here's my opinion(s) on the matter:
First, reaction time has no bearing on your ET or MPH, so get that out of your head.
On the other hand, GREAT R/T...keep it up, but it only matters in competition (bracket or heads-up).
60' - Not horrible, because I even ran 2 or 3 1.8 60's at E-town, and I haven't done worse than 1.79 in my last 30 runs or so. The track was slick, or at least the launch pad was...I was spinning all 4 tires with less power than you, so I assume you were spinning, too.
1/8th - Hmm, weird. You must have shifted 1-2 and 2-3 kinda slow, because your 8.2 at 85 is not very fast at all. I was doing 7.8 and 7.9 at 87-88 with similar 60's, which leads me to...
1/4 - Wow, 110mph and a 12.6? That means you were absolutely HAULING *** in the back half, which shows your true power. You picked up over 25mph and cut off a good bit of time in the back half. When I run 12.6x on pump gas, I only hit 107-108 mph, and that's with 8.0 in the 1/8th. You made up about 2/10ths on the back half compared to my 12.6 type runs. This means that with a good launch and better shifting, you'd probably see 112mph and some low 12s (12.3-12.4?).
HP - I can confirm that you are making good power, but I'd be hard pressed to believe 360whp. I would think more along the lines of 330-340, which is still very nice, but not quite 360. With 360, I would expect closer to 116mph. Remember that I dyno'd 282whp on a Dynojet when I ran my 12.64 at 107-108, then on the same setup I ran 12.22 at 111 with the addition of 104oct and some increased boost/leaner SAFC settings. That indicates a 30-40whp gain, which would put me near 320...
First, reaction time has no bearing on your ET or MPH, so get that out of your head.
On the other hand, GREAT R/T...keep it up, but it only matters in competition (bracket or heads-up).60' - Not horrible, because I even ran 2 or 3 1.8 60's at E-town, and I haven't done worse than 1.79 in my last 30 runs or so. The track was slick, or at least the launch pad was...I was spinning all 4 tires with less power than you, so I assume you were spinning, too.
1/8th - Hmm, weird. You must have shifted 1-2 and 2-3 kinda slow, because your 8.2 at 85 is not very fast at all. I was doing 7.8 and 7.9 at 87-88 with similar 60's, which leads me to...
1/4 - Wow, 110mph and a 12.6? That means you were absolutely HAULING *** in the back half, which shows your true power. You picked up over 25mph and cut off a good bit of time in the back half. When I run 12.6x on pump gas, I only hit 107-108 mph, and that's with 8.0 in the 1/8th. You made up about 2/10ths on the back half compared to my 12.6 type runs. This means that with a good launch and better shifting, you'd probably see 112mph and some low 12s (12.3-12.4?).
HP - I can confirm that you are making good power, but I'd be hard pressed to believe 360whp. I would think more along the lines of 330-340, which is still very nice, but not quite 360. With 360, I would expect closer to 116mph. Remember that I dyno'd 282whp on a Dynojet when I ran my 12.64 at 107-108, then on the same setup I ran 12.22 at 111 with the addition of 104oct and some increased boost/leaner SAFC settings. That indicates a 30-40whp gain, which would put me near 320...
Thanks for the input. I am not running on straight pump. I am using methanol injection. With that said does the power make more sense? Also can you comment about how my stock clutch may be affecting things. It has 18K on it but still feels OK. Thanks
Originally Posted by gestalt
Thanks for the input. I am not running on straight pump. I am using methanol injection. With that said does the power make more sense? Also can you comment about how my stock clutch may be affecting things. It has 18K on it but still feels OK. Thanks
The stock clutch shouldn't be holding you back. It never held me back en route to the 12.2s. It never slipped or caused any issue with shifting, and then after 10-12 hard launches in one day, it gave out due to too much overheating (all my fault). The funny thing is that I ran a 12.24 on my very last run, then 5mins later, it was slipping in 1st gear the moment I hit 1psi...weird stuff.


