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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Help me Analyze my 1st Drag Race Please!

Yesterday at the Evo vs. WRX Shootout I drag raced for the first time. I was hoping that people would make sense of the time slip for me and point out what needs help. Temp, was 86 degrees. Car has stock intercooler, pipes, intake etc. Does have cams and alky. 360WHP. Is that MPH right for my HP level?

R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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seems about right...with that hp you should trap between 110 and 112...if you get your 60 down a little and shift a hair faster you'll be in the low 12s
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:38 AM
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You could work on your reaction times a bit,J/K...Not too bad for first time at track
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Not bad at all for your first time out, work on the 60ft just alittle more, and you'll improve even more. But for your first time out, not bad at all.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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60ft 60ft 60ft, otherwise seems like a strong running car. 110+ traps are always good. Nice light by the way.

Low 1.7 60ft would have been 12.3 easy. Gook luck
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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That's a pretty good run, just get that 60ft down a little more and you'll be deep in the 12s
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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I can't understand how I got such a good r/t and poor 60ft. I launched it hard. Somewhere abound 5800 with a quick slip and dump. I guess it must have been some wheel spin. Next time I will have someone video tape. What is the best I can ask for for a 60 foot time?
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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1.8 is pretty good for your first time. It's the best I managed to cut last night (my first time).

We both should be able to bring down 60's to the 1.7/1.6 range.

1.81
5.32
8.21

I catch myself watcing the light instead of the tach.. so I'm not sure where I launch at.. somewhere around 4500-5500.
85.58mph

btw I'm running 264 cams/ TBE with cat/ upgraded IC and lower pipes/ stock airbox and needs a tune

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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 11:40 AM
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help me analyze mine
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259

If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gestalt
Yesterday at the Evo vs. WRX Shootout I drag raced for the first time. I was hoping that people would make sense of the time slip for me and point out what needs help. Temp, was 86 degrees. Car has stock intercooler, pipes, intake etc. Does have cams and alky. 360WHP. Is that MPH right for my HP level?

R/T .013
60' 1.861
330' 5.314
1/8th 8.179@84.95
1000ft 10.629
1/4mile at 12.664@110mph
Sorry, gestalt, I was beat from being in the sun all day while racing both Sat. and Sun. Here's my opinion(s) on the matter:

First, reaction time has no bearing on your ET or MPH, so get that out of your head. On the other hand, GREAT R/T...keep it up, but it only matters in competition (bracket or heads-up).

60' - Not horrible, because I even ran 2 or 3 1.8 60's at E-town, and I haven't done worse than 1.79 in my last 30 runs or so. The track was slick, or at least the launch pad was...I was spinning all 4 tires with less power than you, so I assume you were spinning, too.

1/8th - Hmm, weird. You must have shifted 1-2 and 2-3 kinda slow, because your 8.2 at 85 is not very fast at all. I was doing 7.8 and 7.9 at 87-88 with similar 60's, which leads me to...

1/4 - Wow, 110mph and a 12.6? That means you were absolutely HAULING *** in the back half, which shows your true power. You picked up over 25mph and cut off a good bit of time in the back half. When I run 12.6x on pump gas, I only hit 107-108 mph, and that's with 8.0 in the 1/8th. You made up about 2/10ths on the back half compared to my 12.6 type runs. This means that with a good launch and better shifting, you'd probably see 112mph and some low 12s (12.3-12.4?).

HP - I can confirm that you are making good power, but I'd be hard pressed to believe 360whp. I would think more along the lines of 330-340, which is still very nice, but not quite 360. With 360, I would expect closer to 116mph. Remember that I dyno'd 282whp on a Dynojet when I ran my 12.64 at 107-108, then on the same setup I ran 12.22 at 111 with the addition of 104oct and some increased boost/leaner SAFC settings. That indicates a 30-40whp gain, which would put me near 320...
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by twan
help me analyze mine
i know 60foots i bogged each time but it was my 1st time to the track
http://www.wtfbracing.com/forum/albu...hp?pic_id=2259

If I improved that 60 foot from a 2.3 to a 1.9 I would be running 12.7's?
Does my mph seem low?
Twan, you can't even worry one second about your ETs and traps. The 2.2 and 2.3 60' times completely ruin the entire run, so they can't even be analyzed. Your mph of 107 shows that you absolutely are making power, but you can't see exactly how much until you do an actual launch. I took no offense to you not letting me disconnect the switch, but as you can see, you weren't even coming close to launching. You can keep the switch connected and still cut 1.7-1.8 if you're good at it (I'm not, but a few are), so that's no big deal, but I have to launch at ~6k rpm, which requires the switch to be disconnected.

You should go to a local track and learn to get off the line, and then you will see EEEEEAAASSSSY 12s (no contest) and some serious mph. I would expect no less than 110mph on a full run with a good 60' and solid shifting. I think you could easily see et/mph that match your dyno numbers in the range of 12.5 at 110 or so. By "match," I mean they are within reason and close, though not quite all the way there. My 12.15 at 110.7 yesterday was probably at or near your 330whp/350wtq levels, but I don't/won't know until I get a dyno in that form. I'd happily do it if someone else would pay for it, haha...
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:30 AM
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Warrtalon thanks for shooting straight with me.
Ive been bitten by the drag bug and really want to persue this..............but it would be smart of me to get an ACT and move the evo off daily driver status before I get seriously into this...........ahh decisions decisions!
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Sorry, gestalt, I was beat from being in the sun all day while racing both Sat. and Sun. Here's my opinion(s) on the matter:

First, reaction time has no bearing on your ET or MPH, so get that out of your head. On the other hand, GREAT R/T...keep it up, but it only matters in competition (bracket or heads-up).

60' - Not horrible, because I even ran 2 or 3 1.8 60's at E-town, and I haven't done worse than 1.79 in my last 30 runs or so. The track was slick, or at least the launch pad was...I was spinning all 4 tires with less power than you, so I assume you were spinning, too.

1/8th - Hmm, weird. You must have shifted 1-2 and 2-3 kinda slow, because your 8.2 at 85 is not very fast at all. I was doing 7.8 and 7.9 at 87-88 with similar 60's, which leads me to...

1/4 - Wow, 110mph and a 12.6? That means you were absolutely HAULING *** in the back half, which shows your true power. You picked up over 25mph and cut off a good bit of time in the back half. When I run 12.6x on pump gas, I only hit 107-108 mph, and that's with 8.0 in the 1/8th. You made up about 2/10ths on the back half compared to my 12.6 type runs. This means that with a good launch and better shifting, you'd probably see 112mph and some low 12s (12.3-12.4?).

HP - I can confirm that you are making good power, but I'd be hard pressed to believe 360whp. I would think more along the lines of 330-340, which is still very nice, but not quite 360. With 360, I would expect closer to 116mph. Remember that I dyno'd 282whp on a Dynojet when I ran my 12.64 at 107-108, then on the same setup I ran 12.22 at 111 with the addition of 104oct and some increased boost/leaner SAFC settings. That indicates a 30-40whp gain, which would put me near 320...

Thanks for the input. I am not running on straight pump. I am using methanol injection. With that said does the power make more sense? Also can you comment about how my stock clutch may be affecting things. It has 18K on it but still feels OK. Thanks
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Old Aug 23, 2005 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by gestalt
Thanks for the input. I am not running on straight pump. I am using methanol injection. With that said does the power make more sense? Also can you comment about how my stock clutch may be affecting things. It has 18K on it but still feels OK. Thanks
Hmm, oh yeah. No, that doesn't change anything. I assume your 360whp dyno was on meth, so it's all good. I should have known that anyway, because 360 on pump without meth is tough to do. It does help explain why you were trapping 110 in the heat without race gas, but I should have been able to assume that anyway.

The stock clutch shouldn't be holding you back. It never held me back en route to the 12.2s. It never slipped or caused any issue with shifting, and then after 10-12 hard launches in one day, it gave out due to too much overheating (all my fault). The funny thing is that I ran a 12.24 on my very last run, then 5mins later, it was slipping in 1st gear the moment I hit 1psi...weird stuff.
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