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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by housedj
i actually thought about that...
I'll be at Pueblo Motorsports Park in Pueblo, CO, on March 25th for the first Test'n'Tune of the season.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by matt55
I dont understand why your asking , but
On a full weight evo with a 9.8 hs I would say NO
On a full weight evo with a 10.5 hs maybe , but not very likely
On a full weight evo with a IX tubro yes , but its hard for me to beilve .....(yes iam green with envy)

does the 10.5 hotside really make that much difference??
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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I have the mods in my Sig and the best time I have run is 12.073@115.07. That is with the 9.8T that us poor '03/'04's come with. I don't see the 10.5t guys doing it either unless they just have a factory freak EVO.

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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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I would say it is for surely possible with the 10.5. The track I go to is about 800ft above sea level. With a 3" DP and test pipe, I would be there.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 10:16 PM
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I have a customer who has run a grip of 11.70 passes without cams. Granted he has bought more than most would without getting cams.

04 RS
3" turbo back exhaust
ARC Induction Intake box with PURE hard pipe
PURE Upper intercooler pipe
PURE Lower intercooler pipe
Precision Intercooler core
AEM EMS engine management (speed density)
Hallman Boost controller
FIC 650cc injectors
10.5 hotside
ACT street clutch
megan manifold/O2
25psi taper to 21
110 leaded race fuel

conservative tune on race gas made 320awhp on our Mustang 1100SE.

He switched to a 03 sunroof chassis for this year (daily driver) and added a few new goodies, still no cams. Made 310awhp on 94 octane pump. He wants 11.50's on stock turbo. Cams should give it to him. Will be doing race gas tuning before the tracks open.

Oh and this guy can drive, 1.58 60 ft on 235 American GT Turbo tires????
He used to cut 1.6x 60's on stock clutch and tires (both lasted ~22K miles and 40 passes)
Couple of time slips are attached too. Both were in the left lane different nights.
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Old Feb 28, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt - PURE Tuning
I have a customer who has run a grip of 11.70 passes without cams. Granted he has bought more than most would without getting cams.

04 RS
3" turbo back exhaust
ARC Induction Intake box with PURE hard pipe
PURE Upper intercooler pipe
PURE Lower intercooler pipe
Precision Intercooler core
AEM EMS engine management (speed density)
Hallman Boost controller
FIC 650cc injectors
10.5 hotside
ACT street clutch
megan manifold/O2
25psi taper to 21
110 leaded race fuel

conservative tune on race gas made 320awhp on our Mustang 1100SE.

He switched to a 03 sunroof chassis for this year (daily driver) and added a few new goodies, still no cams. Made 310awhp on 94 octane pump. He wants 11.50's on stock turbo. Cams should give it to him. Will be doing race gas tuning before the tracks open.

Oh and this guy can drive, 1.58 60 ft on 235 American GT Turbo tires????
He used to cut 1.6x 60's on stock clutch and tires (both lasted ~22K miles and 40 passes)
Couple of time slips are attached too. Both were in the left lane different nights.
that guy is moving!!! maybe i need to get a MoTeC system...
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Tpayne84
does the 10.5 hotside really make that much difference??
I hope so b/c i just ordered one .
"20hp more when pushing the trubo to the max vs the 9.8" is what someone in the know has told me.
Other ppl have gone .2-.3 quicker in the 1/4 after changing it out .
So right now my 11.7@117 was with the 9.8hs next time out iam going to have a 10.5hs ported , ported mani and a cheap O2 housing and Ill see how much of a diff it is .
Anything more than 20hp (.2 in the 1/4) ill be very happy with
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by matt55
I hope so b/c i just ordered one .
"20hp more when pushing the trubo to the max vs the 9.8" is what someone in the know has told me.
Other ppl have gone .2-.3 quicker in the 1/4 after changing it out .
So right now my 11.7@117 was with the 9.8hs next time out iam going to have a 10.5hs ported , ported mani and a cheap O2 housing and Ill see how much of a diff it is .
Anything more than 20hp (.2 in the 1/4) ill be very happy with
b4 i added mine, my car put down 303hp/336tq. now i'm putting down 324hp/368tq...
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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I have:
Stock intercooler
stock injectors
stock turbo w/ 9.8 hotside
stock manifold
stock O2 housing
stock head casting
FG lower intercooler pipe
Injen upper i/c pipe and intake
AEM EMS Speed density
HKS 280's
DC sport d/p
greddy ti catback
walbro fuel pump
Exedy single disk clutch
quaife LSD
BALD snow tires

I went 10.3 on my pump gas map on 17 psi in the 1000'. Then I put C-16 in and turned up the boost to 27psi and changed to my race gas map and went 9.5 in the 1000'. If you look at his time slips that should be about an 11.5 in the 1/4. I also have a 100 shot of nitrous that I could not use because the clutch was sliping. I think I can run a high 10 sec pas on nitrous in the 1/4 with a new clutch and tires. The maps in my aem are just street tuned and have aem stock ignition maps in them. all I am useing the aem for right now is fuel tuning.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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11's on a non-cammed stock turbo'd '05 used to be a goal for me.

I couldn't manage it. It seems you need at least 113 mph traps with 1.6x 60's to pull it off.

I managed the 1.6x 60's but the car could only muster 110mph traps. Good for only 12.2's. I had 100 oct, 25 lbs. Track was 800 msl. 60 F

Buschur stg 2 w/ Deluxe FMIC.

I think it is possible but only for about 5% of us with th 10.5's

I don't see it happneing on the 9.8's.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 01:23 PM
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I think there is a Evo 2 GSR here in NZ that has done a 11.05 on a stock internaled engine and turbo. It was stripped out and just has things like fuel, intercooler, bov, w/gate, Motec ECU, stock exhaust manifold, Custom plenum and a head gasket. It was dynoed at around 21PSI which was pushing it but it got like 240KW at the wheels. I think it is on C16 to. and then there is a Evo 1 GSR with the same specs that has done a 11.2.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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[B]Hello there can any one till me what the capacity of the stock turbo charger i mean maximum ... im looking forword to increase boost pressur with my new electronic greddy boost control .
if any one have greddy electronic boost control can he tell me about the best figure for ( start boost ,set,gain ) .
i have evo 8 2005 model ...5 speed manual gear box ..... need help please
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Akeem
[B]Hello there can any one till me what the capacity of the stock turbo charger i mean maximum ... im looking forword to increase boost pressur with my new electronic greddy boost control .
if any one have greddy electronic boost control can he tell me about the best figure for ( start boost ,set,gain ) .
i have evo 8 2005 model ...5 speed manual gear box ..... need help please
what kind of fuel do you use? that will determine boost. if u can get a flash that will help also.
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Hey dj ,u going to play in Pueblo,Co.?
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Old Mar 1, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by topnotchevo
Hey dj ,u going to play in Pueblo,Co.?
nope. i'll be in Miami Beach at the M3 Summit (miami, music, multimedia) from the 20th thru the 27. producing music comes 1st & who wants to miss all the hot girls there? u don't come to miami unless you're single...
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