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Old Oct 22, 2006, 07:46 PM
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Question My first run at the track!!! 7.97@85.05mph in the 1/8 ok???

This was my first time ever racing at the track with the Evo and b4 this I have only made 2 passes ever in any car! My car only has a Vishnu stage 1+ and a Exedy twin disc I was on my race gas map and ran...
.543 - REACTION
1.684- 60'
5.102- 330'
7.442- 594'
7.972- 1/8
85.05- MPH

The car was full of junk (12packs of coke in the trunk all interior still in the car, school books in the back seat, ect) so Is this about right for an 03 Evo with 72,000+ miles on a car?

And sorry dyno4mance I had to know what she'd do!

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COME ON 21 people have viewed this and none knows if this is good or not? WTF?
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Yes, hitting 7s in the 1/8th is good for your first time, but 1/8th mile tracks are pretty useless. Get to a 1/4 to see what it really does. Your 88mph trap shows decent power, but the car can probably do a lot more on that race gas map. Strangely, you have no experience with drag racing and somehow cut a 1.68, yet the ET is quite weak for the mph, which brings me back to considering 1/8th-mile tracks to be worthless (the timers are wrong so often).

You said it "only" has Vishnu stg 1+. What do you mean by "only"? That's a lot of mods, isn't it? If you were looking for a comparison of what you should hit with your mods, I don't keep track of the Vishnu stages, but I can tell you what I did on my Warrtalon Stg1 (tbe/mbc/bov/fuelpump/flash):

- 7.76@88.5 (12.26@110) on 93oct
- 7.63@90.7 (12.000@113) on 93/110oct mix

Compare your mods with those.

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Old Oct 22, 2006, 10:32 PM
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Warr, a Vishnu Stage 1+ consists of a turbo-back exhaust, cams, and a Xede. I've usually have seen them run with the stock paper element air cleaner. BTW nice run. Take it to a 1/4 mile track to see what it runs.

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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Yes, hitting 7s in the 1/8th is good for your first time, but 1/8th mile tracks are pretty useless. Get to a 1/4 to see what it really does. Your 88mph trap shows decent power, but the car can probably do a lot more on that race gas map. Strangely, you have no experience with drag racing and somehow cut a 1.68, yet the ET is quite weak for the mph, which brings me back to considering 1/8th-mile tracks to be worthless (the timers are wrong so often).

You said it "only" has Vishnu stg 1+. What do you mean by "only"? That's a lot of mods, isn't it? If you were looking for a comparison of what you should hit with your mods, I don't keep track of the Vishnu stages, but I can tell you what I did on my Warrtalon Stg1 (tbe/mbc/bov/fuelpump/flash):

- 7.76@88.5 (12.26@110) on 93oct
- 7.63@90.7 (12.000@113) on 93/110oct mix

Compare your mods with those.
I fixed my mph after reading your comment I started thinking "THAT'S NOT RIGHT" about my mph it was only 85.05 mph but the rest is right on and the closest 1/4 mile is a ways away! And why is an 1/8 mile useless? My care tuned over a year ago put down 336whp @ 21-22psi on a DD dyno @ dyno4mance!

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Warr, a Vishnu Stage 1+ consists of a turbo-back exhaust, cams, and a Xede. I've usually have seen them run with the stock paper element air cleaner. BTW nice run. Take it to a 1/4 mile track to see what it runs.
Here is my car and whats on it http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/project/index.php and the twin disc

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Hmm, 85mph is not a good thing, because that means the car is quite weak. There are stock IXs hitting 85mph traps in the 1/8th on 93oct - 0 mods whatsoever. On the bright side, this means your driving was excellent, although I'm not sure how you managed such superb launching and driving with no previous experience in the Evo and virtually 0 previous experience in any car. Strange.

For reference again, my times and traps above were without cams and with 305whp on a Dynojet, which is about 270whp on a DD. Your numbers indicate about 270whp on a Dynojet, so if you put down 336whp on a DD at some point, then the car may have a problem...
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1/8 mile track -

Like beating off and your mom walks in the room. You get halfway there, but then you gotta stop.
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
Hmm, 85mph is not a good thing, because that means the car is quite weak. There are stock IXs hitting 85mph traps in the 1/8th on 93oct - 0 mods whatsoever. On the bright side, this means your driving was excellent, although I'm not sure how you managed such superb launching and driving with no previous experience in the Evo and virtually 0 previous experience in any car. Strange.

For reference again, my times and traps above were without cams and with 305whp on a Dynojet, which is about 270whp on a DD. Your numbers indicate about 270whp on a Dynojet, so if you put down 336whp on a DD at some point, then the car may have a problem...

I've practiced launching on the street, but have never had one prolem what so ever out of the car nor had the previous owner. I lifted on every shift and I was hitting my rev limiter right b4 the lights. and i'm asuming you meant 370 on a dynojet? but thats not 15% but i guess that doesn't matter and ONE thing I forgot to mention is this could have been on my pump gas map. My toggle switch broke RIGHT after i filled up with gas and I'm not sure if I ever got it switched over to the race gas map. Before I ever tried to switch the switch by sticking something in the whole and waiting to hear a click I was running some 8.0's with constant 1.7 60'
could the location make a difference in our cars i'm in TN?
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Originally Posted by QwikSRT4
1/8 mile track -

Like beating off and your mom walks in the room. You get halfway there, but then you gotta stop.

Yea but why's it useless?
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No, 270 on a Dynojet. Your et/mph is equivalent to a stock IX or a lightly-modded Evo 8. 370whp would have been 92-93mph or so in the 1/8th...

Location is not an issue. In fact, I'm at 6000' altitude and am running 12.30@109.5 on 299whp on a Dynojet. I put down 299whp on my shop's DD but with a 1.15 altitude correction, which meant I really only put down 260. My 1/8ths are 7.8 @ 87 or so...
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
No, 270 on a Dynojet. Your et/mph is equivalent to a stock IX or a lightly-modded Evo 8. 370whp would have been 92-93mph or so in the 1/8th...

Location is not an issue. In fact, I'm at 6000' altitude and am running 12.30@109.5 on 299whp on a Dynojet. I put down 299whp on my shop's DD but with a 1.15 altitude correction, which meant I really only put down 260. My 1/8ths are 7.8 @ 87 or so...

What gear and at what rpm are you @ with the MR tranny when you cross the 1/8 cause if it were 1 a 1/4 mile I'd be shifting b4 the 1/8 and your not lifting on any of your shifts either am i correct? and have you done and weight reductions at the time and could the 185-200+lbs of crap i have in my car hurt my mph that much?

And I thought you were saying my hp numbers were 270 on a dyno jet!

Theres one other evo 8 with the EXACT same mods running 8.1's on the same ****ty track, he's only cutting a 1.7 60' and has raced there many times! (His car is an 05 with 60,000 less miles than mine too!

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Originally Posted by svtkiller
I fixed my mph after reading your comment I started thinking "THAT'S NOT RIGHT" about my mph it was only 85.05 mph but the rest is right on and the closest 1/4 mile is a ways away! And why is an 1/8 mile useless? My care tuned over a year ago put down 336whp @ 21-22psi on a DD dyno @ dyno4mance!



Here is my car and whats on it http://www.dyno4mance.com/tuning/project/index.php and the twin disc

svtkiller, Just for clarity, your car.....that used to be my car, made 293whp on pump & 310whp on 110 oct race gas on our DD dyno,,,,the car still has the 9.8 hotside It is very possible the power has dropped off as the car has not been tweaked in over a year...FWIW at nearly 70,000 miles that evo has been the most reliable car we have seen at Dyno4mance...it has been modified for 31/2 years and never so much as a check engine light...
Congrats on getting in the 7's
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Originally Posted by Dyno4mance
svtkiller, Just for clarity, your car.....that used to be my car, made 293whp on pump & 310whp on 110 oct race gas on our DD dyno,,,,the car still has the 9.8 hotside It is very possible the power has dropped off as the car has not been tweaked in over a year...FWIW at nearly 70,000 miles that evo has been the most reliable car we have seen at Dyno4mance...it has been modified for 31/2 years and never so much as a check engine light...
Congrats on getting in the 7's

See i kenw something was wrong! Thanks for "Learning me how Andrew" And thanks for not scolding me on how bad and pointless drag racing is! LOL

But still Andrew Mac has the better turbo, cams and he's still not in the 7's, but still for my non driving azz, I was happy!
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Originally Posted by svtkiller
What gear and at what rpm are you @ with the MR tranny when you cross the 1/8 cause if it were 1 a 1/4 mile I'd be shifting b4 the 1/8 and your not lifting on any of your shifts either am i correct? and have you done and weight reductions at the time and could the 185-200+lbs of crap i have in my car hurt my mph that much?

And I thought you were saying my hp numbers were 270 on a dyno jet!

Theres one other evo 8 with the EXACT same mods running 8.1's on the same ****ty track, he's only cutting a 1.7 60' and has raced there many times! (His car is an 05 with 60,000 less miles than mine too!
I cross the 1/8th well into 4th gear already, but I don't know the rpm. NO way to look at my rpms and see right when I cross the blocks, plus it's not that important.

On the times posted, I only no-lifted the 3-4.

No weight reduction other than the ones that come from modding, such as the exhaust being lighter, and I also don't drive around with my spare, jack, and tools.

Yes, if you really had an extra 200lbs of crap in the car, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, then that would throw you off by .2s/2mph, but many times people exaggerate (or overrate) the actual amount of extra weight they have.

Yes, I'm saying your trap speed is equivalent to 270whp on a Dynojet. I can't be more clear.

It doesn't matter what another car's ET is - only the trap speed matters when discussing actual power. The ET shows driving ability.
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Originally Posted by Warrtalon
I cross the 1/8th well into 4th gear already, but I don't know the rpm. NO way to look at my rpms and see right when I cross the blocks, plus it's not that important.

On the times posted, I only no-lifted the 3-4.

No weight reduction other than the ones that come from modding, such as the exhaust being lighter, and I also don't drive around with my spare, jack, and tools.

Yes, if you really had an extra 200lbs of crap in the car, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, then that would throw you off by .2s/2mph, but many times people exaggerate (or overrate) the actual amount of extra weight they have.

Yes, I'm saying your trap speed is equivalent to 270whp on a Dynojet. I can't be more clear.

It doesn't matter what another car's ET is - only the trap speed matters when discussing actual power. The ET shows driving ability.
He ran an 8.1 @84.?? mph! with the same mods on a 05 evo!



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