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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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cut out some of that 500lb air to water IC and you'll be good to go. If NASA built a turbocharged shuttle, that's about how big their IC would be.
Got to love 58 deg temps on a 100 deg day keeps those blocks from cracking
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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just go with the ultimate weight reduction: Meth, ditch the intercooler and have way shorter rout piping
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Nelson
Got to love 58 deg temps on a 100 deg day keeps those blocks from cracking
Wow...nice jab at someone else because you have nothing on me.

Anyways...if your t00ner did some research before just throwing stuff at your car, he would know that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to have that many cores in an air to water IC.

Just trying to help you lose some weight.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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just go with the ultimate weight reduction: Meth, ditch the intercooler and have way shorter rout piping

Now that sounds like the way you build a real race car..
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike@AwdMotorsports
Now that sounds like the way you build a real race car..


But the times wouldn't count
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Nelson
Got to love 58 deg temps on a 100 deg day keeps those blocks from cracking


Wait what? You have got to be kidding me! Had no Idea a liquid to air IC would keep the blocks from cracking, damn, news to me LMFAO!
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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very nice!!!
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Wow...nice jab at someone else because you have nothing on me.

Anyways...if your t00ner did some research before just throwing stuff at your car, he would know that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to have that many cores in an air to water IC.

Just trying to help you lose some weight.
If you did some research the water to air is a experiment by ETS. they where willing to build it and take 2 cores offline at a time depending on temps Just like
the 10.1 compression and 45r with the 42r housing. Part of having fun seeing what works and being innovative.

ETS has been building water to airs for the V8 world for some time now so this is nothing new for them but building them on a setup like this is. How much experience do you have at this level? I would rather have 58 deg temps than 130 deg temps any day
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SloRice
Wow...nice jab at someone else because you have nothing on me.

Anyways...if your t00ner did some research before just throwing stuff at your car, he would know that there is ABSOLUTELY no reason to have that many cores in an air to water IC.

Just trying to help you lose some weight.
O and my Tooner Lucas English is one of the best in the business
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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O and my Tooner Lucas English is one of the best in the business
lol......makes me want a toona fish sandwich.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Nelson
O and my Tooner Lucas English is one of the best in the business

Great innovations!
Best tuner!
Best power-to-weight ratio!

So what's the excuse?
It must be the driver!

Probably too much traction on the front wheels from the heavy I/C so you need a solid rear conversion to get traction on the rear wheels because you're not breaking rear ends so it should help in the traction department.
Or it could be too much chassis flex from what use to be a unibody car to now a non- body version.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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Great innovations!
Best tuner!
Best power-to-weight ratio!

So what's the excuse?
It must be the driver!

Probably too much traction on the front wheels from the heavy I/C so you need a solid rear conversion to get traction on the rear wheels because you're not breaking rear ends so it should help in the traction department.
Or it could be too much chassis flex from what use to be a unibody car to now a non- body version.

LOL always something but thats why we keep coming back for more!
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Old May 30, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Your car must be emo, cause you cut it, huh Paul?
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Old May 30, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Paul, I really don't mean to be a dick or anything, but shouldn't you be more concerned about getting the car to go straight down the track and work on the driving/tune?
TO ME, it seems that every time you goto the track your not happy with the results and take the route of stripping the car down more. I understand you wanna be as light as possible, but man, Seriously how much more can you really cut out of the car and make it unsafe?

Take my car for example, I'm on a ETS 5" thick core FMIC, gt4202 non bb turbo, I have carpet and all in the car. I haven't cut hardly anything out of my car other then the crash beams and misc crap in the doors, but it still retains the door panels. Car has gone 8.83 @164mph thus far. and with the car being at 2750lbs

All I am saying is you already have the power to do it, and the car "should" be light enough as it is. You just need the driver mod and get the car to go straight. Those are the 2 biggest things I would be focused on rather then cutting the hell out of the car cause you think that will help.
You just got done figuring out how to make the car settle down and go some what straighter. And now you are taking more weight out, and in end result, your chassis adjustments are going to change once again. Your back to ground 0 again with the chassis.

Just my thoughts on it. Don't shoot me for it
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Old May 30, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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Paul, I really don't mean to be a dick or anything, but shouldn't you be more concerned about getting the car to go straight down the track and work on the driving/tune?
TO ME, it seems that every time you goto the track your not happy with the results and take the route of stripping the car down more. I understand you wanna be as light as possible, but man, Seriously how much more can you really cut out of the car and make it unsafe?

Take my car for example, I'm on a ETS 5" thick core FMIC, gt4202 non bb turbo, I have carpet and all in the car. I haven't cut hardly anything out of my car other then the crash beams and misc crap in the doors, but it still retains the door panels. Car has gone 8.83 @164mph thus far. and with the car being at 2750lbs

All I am saying is you already have the power to do it, and the car "should" be light enough as it is. You just need the driver mod and get the car to go straight. Those are the 2 biggest things I would be focused on rather then cutting the hell out of the car cause you think that will help.
You just got done figuring out how to make the car settle down and go some what straighter. And now you are taking more weight out, and in end result, your chassis adjustments are going to change once again. You back to ground 0 again with the chassis.

Just my thoughts on it. Don't shoot me for it

car is going straight now bud we just didnt get to make another pass last time. These are mods Lucas wanted to do last time we just ran out of time.

The few tricks that we did and some of your advice went a long ways
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