The 2005 ESX "Maximum Velocity" Female Driver Search
Originally Posted by alex_alex
yeah, NO.
That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about, but nice try.
To my understanding, the "relationship" depends on what is cooling what. For a air-to-air IC, it obviously doesn't matter, but air is cooling air. For a water-to-air intercooler, however, the water is coolering the INTAKE AIR.
This is DIFFERENT from an air-to-water cooler, which is what a radiator is. Dig?

That has absolutely nothing to do with what we're talking about, but nice try.
To my understanding, the "relationship" depends on what is cooling what. For a air-to-air IC, it obviously doesn't matter, but air is cooling air. For a water-to-air intercooler, however, the water is coolering the INTAKE AIR.
This is DIFFERENT from an air-to-water cooler, which is what a radiator is. Dig?
Hate to say it but "your understanding" is wrong.
The word "to" refers to an application or "applied to." It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air. It's getting cooled either way. They run by each other. It's a mutual thing. And mutual things work both ways. It depends on which way you look at it. And both ways are correct. My analogy stands.
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
Hate to say it but "your understanding" is wrong.
The word "to" refers to an application or "applied to." It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air . It's getting cooled either way. They run by each other. It's a mutual thing. And mutual things work both ways. It depends on which way you look at it. And both ways are correct. My analogy stands.
The word "to" refers to an application or "applied to." It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air . It's getting cooled either way. They run by each other. It's a mutual thing. And mutual things work both ways. It depends on which way you look at it. And both ways are correct. My analogy stands.
once again, NO.
saying that "It's getting cooled either way" is ambiguous, and quite meaningless actually, b/c it does NOT go both ways simply because they "run by each other." A simple physics lesson will tell you that when one is getting cooled, the other is getting heated.
On a water-to-air intercooler, the WATER is getting heated, and the air inside is getting cooled in return.
On a radiator (air to water), the AIR that hits the radiator gets heated while the already hot fluids inside the radiator cool down.
"It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air"
-- and, if you think the intake air is what is getting applied to the coolant, youve got a bigger misunderstanding problem that just how IC's work.
hmmm . . .
i guess i stand partially corrected. It seems like the distinction that i'm making is drawn only by select groups of people. from what im seeing, i guess in the domestic community its all the same thing.
i guess i stand partially corrected. It seems like the distinction that i'm making is drawn only by select groups of people. from what im seeing, i guess in the domestic community its all the same thing.
Originally Posted by alex_alex
once again, NO.
saying that "It's getting cooled either way" is ambiguous, and quite meaningless actually, b/c it does NOT go both ways simply because they "run by each other." A simple physics lesson will tell you that when one is getting cooled, the other is getting heated.
On a water-to-air intercooler, the WATER is getting heated, and the air inside is getting cooled in return.
On a radiator (air to water), the AIR that hits the radiator gets heated while the already hot fluids inside the radiator cool down.
"It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air"
-- and, if you think the intake air is what is getting applied to the coolant, youve got a bigger misunderstanding problem that just how IC's work.
saying that "It's getting cooled either way" is ambiguous, and quite meaningless actually, b/c it does NOT go both ways simply because they "run by each other." A simple physics lesson will tell you that when one is getting cooled, the other is getting heated.
On a water-to-air intercooler, the WATER is getting heated, and the air inside is getting cooled in return.
On a radiator (air to water), the AIR that hits the radiator gets heated while the already hot fluids inside the radiator cool down.
"It doesn't matter if the intake air is applied to the coolant or if the coolant is applied to the intake air"
-- and, if you think the intake air is what is getting applied to the coolant, youve got a bigger misunderstanding problem that just how IC's work.

Air even after the turbo is still intake air dumbass.
It does not matter which property is getting cooled. What matters is the two properties INVOLVED in the transfer of heat that determine the name. The very name, in fact, that is just as ambiguous as its function. Thus, our disagreement.
Do you really think you are giving me a lesson on the functionality of parts?
This isn't about what the parts do. This is about terminology and it's getting pretty fruity. I'm just here to tell you that you're wrong and I'm right and I am also tired and goodnight.
Originally Posted by alex_alex
hmmm . . .
i guess i stand partially corrected. It seems like the distinction that i'm making is drawn only by select groups of people. from what im seeing, i guess in the domestic community its all the same thing. 
i guess i stand partially corrected. It seems like the distinction that i'm making is drawn only by select groups of people. from what im seeing, i guess in the domestic community its all the same thing. 
Also, just to let you know, regarding terminology, the domestic community is the standard. Ricers like us came a long many years later. We are the ones who make up stupid names and definitions for things that have been around for decades. WE are the ones who should conform to the domestic way. Just because we like turbos better than an additional 4 cylinders doesn't allow us to f* things up and make it harder to understand simple concepts in favor of a "cooler" phrase.
Last edited by EVOTEXAS; Sep 5, 2004 at 01:59 AM.
Originally Posted by EVOTEXAS
Air even after the turbo is still intake air dumbass.
My comment was in response to YOUR having said that the "intake air is applied to the coolant" which doesn't make sense at all. Intake air, before AND after the turbo, never touches the coolant.
But, if you keep fighting reason with cheap shots and namecalling, im done.
Originally Posted by alex_alex
Namecalling aside, youre getting everything twisted. When did i say air after the turbo isn't intake air?
My comment was in response to YOUR having said that the "intake air is applied to the coolant" which doesn't make sense at all. Intake air, before AND after the turbo, never touches the coolant.
But, if you keep fighting reason with cheap shots and namecalling, im done.
My comment was in response to YOUR having said that the "intake air is applied to the coolant" which doesn't make sense at all. Intake air, before AND after the turbo, never touches the coolant.
But, if you keep fighting reason with cheap shots and namecalling, im done.
Don't be so thin skinned. You are the one being frustrating and not paying attention. This isn't business, this is a car forum. Toughen up. Names like idiot and dumbass were invented and exist for a reason. Because somtimes people are of act like that. And in this thread, you are. I am sure you are brilliant at other times in your life. This is not one of your intellectually impressive moments. It's no big deal. I understand.
We were debating the symantics of an air to water intercooler. Now you are going to tell me that you thought I was referring to an air to air. Wow, just....wow.
Last edited by EVOTEXAS; Sep 5, 2004 at 09:32 AM.
i will be maybe today after work...gotta make it to the subi dealership and it by my work.
and females are not all bad drivers and this is my new dream lol and who cares if it is a subi...they are not that bad of a car.
wondering how many females know about this and have responded?
and females are not all bad drivers and this is my new dream lol and who cares if it is a subi...they are not that bad of a car.
wondering how many females know about this and have responded?
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if subi wants to win all their races this year they would put fiesty behind the wheel of that beast, i've been in her car while she was behind the wheel and i swear she is aggressive as hell behind the wheel...
oh, and she beat me once from stop-light to stop-light....which was bull anyway, but she did get me
oh, and she beat me once from stop-light to stop-light....which was bull anyway, but she did get me
Driving a fast car in a drag race is all about reaction times. It's a known fact that women have better consistency in their reaction times.
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