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jvm Jun 12, 2008 11:38 PM

Evo X 11.37 @ 117.5
 
Hi!

The EVO X from Carrito.net run's 11.37 @ 117.5,all boost at Carolina Racetrack PR with the contribution of: Tuned by Monroig, Colo Performance, Driver:Raceman, and Carrito.net. Later more information{thumbup}




Video link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iu8JF1jrIc
p.d. next time slip

Thanks
Javier Monroig

Warrtalon Jun 12, 2008 11:48 PM

I think the motorcycle tire stuff has gotten a bit out of hand.

dannilexus Jun 13, 2008 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770038)
I think the motorcycle tire stuff has gotten a bit out of hand.

they werent on slicks my friend, street tires baby!!!!

EVOB23 Jun 13, 2008 04:59 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770038)
I think the motorcycle tire stuff has gotten a bit out of hand.

Don't get what you mean by this. Do mean it like its sick and crazy. Or like whats up with you guys get real tires.

Good Run. The take off was sick. It does look like it gripped. What was the 60ft.

Warrtalon Jun 13, 2008 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by dannilexus (Post 5770187)
they werent on slicks my friend, street tires baby!!!!

Street tires? The car in that vid has tiny bicycle rims/tires on it unless my eyes are deceiving me. The only way to get an 11.3 @ 117 is with a 1.3-1.4 60', and I know he didn't do that on street tires.

Johnny Fargas Jun 13, 2008 07:24 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770677)
Street tires? The car in that vid has tiny bicycle rims/tires on it unless my eyes are deceiving me. The only way to get an 11.3 @ 117 is with a 1.3-1.4 60', and I know he didn't do that on street tires.


{thumbup} 1.53 60's (can be and will be improved), and the wheels are from an EVO MR, not a bicycle, although I was prepared for this kind of comments, regardless is obvious we are extremely happy and hope that all you can achieve your goals just as we did too... Cheers!

Warrtalon Jun 13, 2008 07:31 AM

It's not like you guys aren't known for this, but that's just beyond reasonable for a regular set of rims and tires. In the vid, although it's dark and the rims are supposedly black (or dark), they look almost non-existant in the wheelwell. There has to be something else going on at these tracks causing such low 60's and times, because 1.53 on regular street tires/rims just makes no sense. With less power than you, I blow my street tires off my rim trying to launch even with very low tire pressure...spin city. The ET and trap just don't match up even for a 1.53, because you can hear the shifts aren't that great (not like the FP Green car that went 10.2).

groove304 Jun 13, 2008 07:41 AM

Those tires do look nonexistent. Congrats on the times anyways. Great driving.

JGC Jun 13, 2008 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770754)
It's not like you guys aren't known for this, but that's just beyond reasonable for a regular set of rims and tires. In the vid, although it's dark and the rims are supposedly black (or dark), they look almost non-existant in the wheelwell.

Obviously if you know a little about racing you will try to use the lightest possible rims and a good set of tires.


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770754)
There has to be something else going on at these tracks causing such low 60's and times, because 1.53 on regular street tires/rims just makes no sense.

Yeah it's call driving skills... I'm not the greatest driver and I manage to pull a 1.551 with regular street tires (245/45/17 RE-01R) in Virginia Motor sport Park. I'm from PR and can tell you weather conditions there are much worse than in the east coast tracks. Tracks are about equal in terms of traction, except maybe a well prep E-town, Cecil o Atco (those are better). To cut this kind of times you need the right set-up and get your suspension right. If you don't believe the times why don't you take a trip and see these cars in action. Nothing but world class cars down in the island.


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770754)
With less power than you, I blow my street tires off my rim trying to launch even with very low tire pressure...spin city. The ET and trap just don't match up even for a 1.53, because you can hear the shifts aren't that great (not like the FP Green car that went 10.2).

Well the only thing I could say is practice. The tracks in PR are open for most of the week... so they get plenty of that. When I moved to VA that's one thing I miss from the island... tracks. Here you can only race on a Friday and the track is like 2 hours away (instead of racing Monday thru Friday and there is 3 1/4 mile tracks to choose from all within 1 hour of each other).

turbo8 Jun 13, 2008 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770754)
It's not like you guys aren't known for this, but that's just beyond reasonable for a regular set of rims and tires. In the vid, although it's dark and the rims are supposedly black (or dark), they look almost non-existant in the wheelwell. There has to be something else going on at these tracks causing such low 60's and times, because 1.53 on regular street tires/rims just makes no sense. With less power than you, I blow my street tires off my rim trying to launch even with very low tire pressure...spin city. The ET and trap just don't match up even for a 1.53, because you can hear the shifts aren't that great (not like the FP Green car that went 10.2).

For a guy that road races you sure talk alot of crap! my car went 11.48 @119 with a 1.68 60ft and the same driver that drove that carrito.net car and i had two different sets of tires no slicks. Don't say this you guy's thing because it makes you sound alittle wierd on the interent. If you knew who oscar robles is then you would kno he never power shifts his first 2 or 3 passes. then when he is ready you will see the car having an airshifter. If YOU HAVE NOTHING KIND TO SAY THEN SAY NOTHING AT ALL. sorry that you cant understand what a driver is when you read about one.{thumbdwn}

Warrtalon Jun 13, 2008 08:51 AM

I am not sure of the correlation between road racing and not talking crap, but I don't think I'm talking crap anyway. The numbers just don't match. I know these guys are awesome and they are to be congratulated, but the ridiculous numbers are usually on the motorcycle tires. This was NOT on those tires and is supposedly on street tires. What kind of tires? I dunno, because they haven't said. They could be drag radials or all-seasons for all I know, but I wouldn't refer to DRs as street tires.

The time is legit, and I know they are awesome at getting more out of less, but I think there is a factor that hasn't been explained, because the numbers just don't add up.

I do not understand your reaction at all. If you knew more about drag racing and how to analyze timeslips, you would not react this way. I am not being mean nor derogatory. Hell, I even invalidated my OWN results recently, because they didn't make sense - the timers were off, but no one else questioned it.

What do you mean by "this you guy's thing"? That and the "if you have nothing kind to say then say nothing at all" just make absolutely no sense. Again, I know these guys are awesome, but there is something missing here. The numbers you used as your example on further my argument. You are saying that they went over a tenth quicker with 2 less mph with regular street tires on shifts where you can hear the motor hesitating after the shifts. If that doesn't raise some questions for you, then I'm sorry. I am not here to invalidate anyone - I just want the whole truth about the track, the setup, and why the ET doesn't even remotely match the trap speed.

Evo2wIsh4 Jun 13, 2008 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by Warrtalon (Post 5770677)
Street tires? The car in that vid has tiny bicycle rims/tires on it unless my eyes are deceiving me. The only way to get an 11.3 @ 117 is with a 1.3-1.4 60', and I know he didn't do that on street tires.


I ran an 11.58 @ 116mph 1.71 60ft. Full weight all season tires. Just because the trap speed is not high doesnt mean that the numbers are wrong.

Alex06 Jun 13, 2008 08:55 AM

Another WORLD RECORD fos PR!!!

Warrtalon Jun 13, 2008 08:55 AM

JGC, yes "obviously" you would do that, but they said they are stock MR rims, which are full-sized even though you can't even see them in the wheelwells. They also claim "street tires," but that could be anything. I get the feeling their "street tires" aren't the same as my "street tires." Yes, good launches are a result of great setup and driving, but you can't make a tire grip that can't grip on a surface without incredible traction.

Yes, I would imagine the conditions are worse in PR than on the East Coast (and most of the US), but their results never seem to suffer. How does that work? I'm sure it helps that they can race all week, every week, hah. I was in the DC metro for years, and I know what you mean - all 3 tracks were an hour drive one way at least and only open on weekends.

Again, I'm not questioning the overall skill, ability, and setup knowledge of everyone involved here. I have never even commented on any of the other threads with amazing results. It was just this particular one where the numbers don't add up, especially when you hear the car launch and hear the shifts. Something is missing from the equation. Seeing the whole timeslip may help...

Warrtalon Jun 13, 2008 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Evo2wIsh4 (Post 5771128)
I ran an 11.58 @ 116mph 1.71 60ft. Full weight all season tires. Just because the trap speed is not high doesnt mean that the numbers are wrong.

Your trap IS wrong, though. That's a 118-119mph car at least and something caused your trap to be artificially low. Was it knock? Was it the timers? You tell me. When people just post numbers and take them at face value, the truth is often masked. I don't doubt you ran an 11.58, but I know you didn't do it with 360whp on a Dynojet. I'm not sure what "full weight all season tires" are, since I have never heard of less-than-full-weight all-season tires, but those actually launch better than proper Evo extreme performance tires due to their soft sidewall.


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