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Old Dec 18, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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I love the folks that think they can go fast because of a video game. It helps for "Looking ahead" and learning a particular track, but the speed and driving skill requires "seat time" and an "open mind" to what the car is actually doing.

Rotating the rear of the car can be acomplished in a lot of ways, as have been mentioned here. The funny thing is the discussion, as I have always taught that
"Going sideways isn't going straight. And straight is the fastest way." But if your goal is drifting, have fun with the suggestions, just watch out for the light poles in the parking lots.

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:03 AM
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I did some drifting today in a big empty parking lot with some light snow. Boy was it fun but there were light poles, so I didnt get to go real fast. I pretty much stayed in 2nd gear the entire time, and gave myself plenty of room away from the poles. My drifts were short lived but very fun.

I learned a few things today but wanted to make sure what I am doing is correct.

When I want to stop the drift, I steer the opposite direction blipping the throttle until the nose straightens out?
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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or you dumb the clutch like. i dont recommend it though. ive been lucky.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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plays hell on those nice expensive tires
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Old Dec 30, 2004 | 03:25 PM
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I went drifting again on a snowy day in a big empty lot. I pretty much got it down, but when I stop the drift, the car would jerk a little when it regains traction. Is this right or am over correcting the steering?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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was tryin to drift my evo today.while rollin.. when the light turns green.i gun it to hit the corners tight then did a tail whiped.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Best way to get your car sideways is in the snow.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hkfeet
Cant wait to try this when the snow hits this weekend at a parking lot.
I have a feeling his next thread will be ....

"HELP I just nailed a curb, do you think its totaled?"

sorry man, had to do it. at any rate good luck with your "drifting"
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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When the *** end of an EVO steps out, don't counter-steer too hard. The car will simply regain traction and swing the *** in the other direction. Just find an open parking lot, take off in first gear, cut it to the left at around 2500 rpm and floor it. You will be able to experience what it feels like and get used to it. Once you are able to pretty much step the rear out try other techniques. You'll find that once the tail comes out if you stay on the gas it will either come back on its own or spin completely around. You will need practice to know the difference. Try to find a parking lot with lots of water to make it easier on your drivetrain.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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or "wanted to buy two new stock rims."
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Thanks?

I had a lot of fun drifting, and learned a lot from my few trips to the baseball park lot. Especially counter steering and trottle use if I lose control of the car.

I dont drive like a idiot on the street, so you wont see my post anything about hitting curbs or crashing into trees. I have my helmet ready for the track when spring comes. Good luck with your ventures as well.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Thats the problem that I am having. I like to counter steer too much. Your right you WILL be looking right at the side of the road. I am use to rear wheel drive with less traction which you can let up a little on the gas. I need to go to a road course and just stay on the gas.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Wait until the ground is moist and then charge into a turn...brake and then let go of the brake as you do a sharp turn. The whole car should slide sideways at that point. Works all the time for me....but it's very dangerous on the street....'cause you can't control how much you slide.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Yea I got it down the day it snowed like crazy in Chicago. I pretty much stayed in 2nd gear the whole time, and just used the power oversteer technique to get into a drift, then I counter, and never let off the gas until Im back straight. Finally realized the jerking was from letting off the gas during the correction. After 10 minutes I felt like real confident about controlling the evo in case I do ever get into a bad situation and thats what my goal was.

Originally Posted by jude
When the *** end of an EVO steps out, don't counter-steer too hard. The car will simply regain traction and swing the *** in the other direction. Just find an open parking lot, take off in first gear, cut it to the left at around 2500 rpm and floor it. You will be able to experience what it feels like and get used to it. Once you are able to pretty much step the rear out try other techniques. You'll find that once the tail comes out if you stay on the gas it will either come back on its own or spin completely around. You will need practice to know the difference. Try to find a parking lot with lots of water to make it easier on your drivetrain.
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Old Jan 20, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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My winter beater is no more, so I bit the bullet and threw some snow tires on the Evo this winter. The evo is a blast in the snow (with the right tires). The main problem is the center diff doesn't want you to lock up the rear wheels with the handbrake (I would guess this would damage the diff if you did it a lot), so you don't have that as a backup method of getting the tail out if you screw up your entry and start understeering. (I think the rally cars are set up so that the center diff goes into open mode when the handbrake is pulled). I've found that just a deliberate turn-in followed by booting the throttle works pretty well to get into an easily-controlled drift (you can dip the clutch beforehand if you're at lower rpms). I've found it a little harder to be as consistently smooth on the recovery as with a RWD car, but this is the first winter that I've taken the Evo out so it could just be a practice thing. RWD cars are easier to play with on the snow, because you have one control for the front end (the steering wheel), and another for the rear (throttle or e-brake), but the "point of no return" is sooner than an AWD car. (Of course on a FWD car, you can get the car nearly backwards, stomp on the gas, and be going straight again as if nothing had happened, but it tends to upset the passengers!)

I've only driven the evo on a dirt road once, but when I tried drifting through a turn, I was a little freaked out by how long the car kept sliding sideways before the wheels finally hooked up (luckily I had left myself some extra room). Unlike a RWD car, when it finally starts to slide, all four wheels are sliding at once!

On dry pavement, I've only gotten the tail out on racetracks, and then only when really throwing the car around on a connected series of turns at a pretty good clip. The car basically wants to understeer, and so you can get the tail pretty far out of shape and still reel it back in quite easily. This was all trailing-throttle oversteer. I don't know if it's possible to get power oversteer in the dry with a stock setup except at very low speeds in 1st gear... my guess is that you'd have to be doing very violent weight-transfer to get the car unstuck and that it would be a pretty sudden and graceless breakaway.

PS. On a related note, has anyone ever gotten pulled over for drifting in the snow? A few weeks ago I got the back end out coming around a turn, and then noticed that there was a cop coming the other way about a block down the road, but luckily he didn't seem to notice or care.
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