How do do you do the following in a EVO VIII safely:
Power slide, controlled E-brake turns, and throttle induced oversteer?

 

Safely? You don't.

 

Find a High Performance Driving School. And to Induce Power on oversteer in an Evo? I'm still trying to get the suspension setup to do this. It pushes.

 

i'm not too sure, but you can try turning wide in the opposite direction just before you turn, then yank it into the direction you wanna go....hard to explain but really easy to do..just jerk the car from one side to the other..you should probably feel body roll kinda waving back and forth...eh..that might be one ay for the power oversteer

 

My first advice would be to forget trying to emulate WRC cars. Not because you can not learn to drive like that but your stock Evo is not up to the task.

Power slide:

Two ways you can induce turn-in oversteer, which is what I think you mean by power slide.

You can do a Swedish flick. Which is a technique that quickly unloads and then loads the suspension causing the car to momentarily lose grip. The trick getting enough momentum on the counter turn, in conjunction with some brake pressure to get the rear only to rotate vs just causing a slide. This is DANGEROUS because many things need to happen at once and it only work if you are carrying sufficient speed. This is NOT taught a Skip Barber or Bob Bondurant so don't expect to learn at any standard driving school. There is not a lot of information I have seen about teaching this technique online. There are however several good books on rally driving techniques and I have also seen good driving tips in rally magazines. This should maybe be a separate thread because the technique is pretty advanced and need more description.

Second way is much easier and safer. You will use the brakes very sharply during early turn-in to lift and unsettle the rear. The weight transfer from the rear of the car to the front will help you to rotate the car. Dialing in a little more steering input then you would normally will really help getting it rotating. This is not something for the street but it is a lot easier to pull off than the Swedish flick, well at least for me. BTW, his is not trail braking and that has pretty much the opposite effect.

In either case if you are on a paved surface you can not really continue a true power slide like in a RWD and very high HP AWD car.* But at least with above techniques you can get the car to rotate quicker and even if it is not faster on the track it will be very entertaining. Download the latest top gear video, the one with the FQ300 and STI PPP, both techniques are demonstrated if memory servers me.

E-brake turn:

This one is simple. Do not use it… Period. Our cars don’t disconnect the rear drive line when the handbrake is pulled. Therefore you are fighting with the transmission that is transferring power to the rear. On rally cars the differential momentarily disconnects when they pull the handle so the car effectively becomes a FWD. I think if you have ACD this disconnection occurs but I’m 100% sure. Someone an expert on ACD?

Throttle Induced Oversteer:

This is not going to happen to a stock Evo on clean pavement. You don’t have enough HP or torque driven to the rear wheel to have a power inducted slide. You could setup the suspension so loose that the rear will come out on exit but this is still not a ‘power slide’ like a RWD car will do.

*Unless the driving surface has little friction. (Eg - wet, gravel, mud, etc.) Then you can power slide a little better.

Hope this helps,

 

I would have thought than any e break manovure would be fine as long as you treat it like a rear driver and clutch it during the application.
Once you have broken traction with the rear, release the ebreak and, up with the clutch and foot on the gas.....

 

Sure, I see your point but the problem is maintaining your momentum while executing the turn-in, while declutching, while pulling the hand brake. And once you achieved your desired rotation, if an rotation every occurs because our rear drum type parking brakes don’t really bite very sharply therefore the rear never really gets unsettled. Then you will still have to re-engage the clutch and start unto the turn with no boost pressure. The no boost pressure is the killer because now you will bog down completely in the turn. I guess I fail to see the advantages of generating rotation with this method?

 

Will keeping the revs high with the right foot aleviate this problem?? Kind of primative anti-lag setup.......

Ortherwise, find some gravel/water covered tar for best effect, as the forces needed for breakaway are a lot lower, and you can drift all day...............

 

oh ya.
It's a handbrake...............

 

The ACD acts like the WRC diff - it will disengage the diff once the e-brake is pulled.. it's pretty neat.

 

Much can be done via tire pressure and weight transfer through throttle input, you just need to get to know your car, and get your techniques down... I wouldn't recommend you doing any of the stuff mentioned on public road though, no room for error. If you want to be fast, be smooth, and try not to do too many "stunt" moves...

 

Well i am no expert, but i know from personal experience that the EVO is designed to give a lil *** play but still give the driver total and upmost control (with reason of course)...

Driving down this windy road with my girlfriend i said i wonder what this turn would real like if i hit it a lil fast, first turn no roll, next turn virtually no roll ( because the force is starting to add on )... Next thing i know the *** started to slip right on a left hand turn... Freak my girlfriend but i maintained stability and total control...

The car is amazing, but with a lot of throttle, the *** does and can - slide out depending on the turn... I would think other than the Scandanivanian Flick ( which should only be done if you have a huge parking lot to practice first )... Sheer throttle and turning force gives the EVO the best drift why still keeping speed - no braking neccessary - and still in excellent controll...

Power slide - drift combo...