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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 03:12 PM
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They had a TV show on SPEED reciently showing the Porsche AWD driving school they host in Colorado in the winter. Is this the same group Dave? Man, it looked fun!
Nope, there's actually a Porsche group that puts on the thing that you saw on speed. Interestingly enough, I'll bet it was Tanner's TV show you saw, and he got his start at the BWDS program...but I'm guessing that the BWDS Toyota fleet didn't fit in with the theme of "Supercars Exposed."

I don't know much about the Porsche school, other than I've heard its held on a golf course and they only operate it for a week or two every winter.

The cool thing IMO about the BWDS school is that once you've taken any of our courses, you can bring your own car (no studded tires) out on the tracks to see how it handles and/or get some valueable practice for the SnoDrift rally.

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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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brake before the turn always

personally i also like to be in a gear lower than normal. so if i normally going 40mph and in 5th gear i tend to be in 4th gear in case i tend to slide or otherwise. the car just feels tighter and easier to control.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveK
Nope, there's actually a Porsche group that puts on the thing that you saw on speed. Interestingly enough, I'll bet it was Tanner's TV show you saw, and he got his start at the BWDS program...but I'm guessing that the BWDS Toyota fleet didn't fit in with the theme of "Supercars Exposed."

I don't know much about the Porsche school, other than I've heard its held on a golf course and they only operate it for a week or two every winter.

The cool thing IMO about the BWDS school is that once you've taken any of our courses, you can bring your own car (no studded tires) out on the tracks to see how it handles and/or get some valueable practice for the SnoDrift rally.

Dave
Yeah that's the one I saw. I don't care for Tanner too much, but man, I'd love to have his job for that show heh... They swung it like the program was factory backed by Porsche, I figured that was too good to be true.
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Old Jun 5, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by GTisRule
Yeah that's the one I saw. I don't care for Tanner too much, but man, I'd love to have his job for that show heh... They swung it like the program was factory backed by Porsche, I figured that was too good to be true.
It doesn't sound outlandish to me that it's a factory backed program. Lots of manufacturers like to use unique programs to showcase their vehicles. For example, the Bridgestone Winter Driving School is 'Powered By Toyota.'

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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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find a local auto cross event, turn off your ASC, grab one of the guys that are fast to ride with you. if it is raining or wet all the better to learn.
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Old Dec 28, 2010 | 11:04 PM
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In addition to the tips already posted i have not seen anyone comment in regard to how you use your eyes once you do lose traction and find yourself in a slide. An important instinct that becomes really apparent when your drunk is you go where you look. Similary if you do loose traction in slippery conditions your eyes tend to look outside the bend rather than staying focused on where you want to go. This phenomena is what can cause your nasty tank slappers. Bottom line keep your eyes on where you want to go and correct.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by phastsupra
In addition to the tips already posted i have not seen anyone comment in regard to how you use your eyes once you do lose traction and find yourself in a slide. An important instinct that becomes really apparent when your drunk is you go where you look. Similary if you do loose traction in slippery conditions your eyes tend to look outside the bend rather than staying focused on where you want to go. This phenomena is what can cause your nasty tank slappers. Bottom line keep your eyes on where you want to go and correct.
This. Look where you want to go.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 09:04 AM
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^That. I'm surprised it took 2 full pages for someone to say this. All driving techniques are useless if your looking at that tree your about to hit.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 01:40 PM
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^That. I'm surprised it took 2 full pages for someone to say this. All driving techniques are useless if your looking at that tree your about to hit.
because probably everybody look where they wanna go, i assume. If not, then the whole thing is doomed from the begin with ... LOL
It's kind of same thing, suggest to hold the steering wheel when you driving.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 02:56 PM
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because probably everybody look where they wanna go, i assume. If not, then the whole thing is doomed from the begin with ... LOL
It's kind of same thing, suggest to hold the steering wheel when you driving.
In normal driving, yes, it's obvious that people look where they want to go. But many, when in emergency situations, look at what they're about to hit/trying to avoid, which then leads to the exact opposite of what they want. Since they look at what they want to avoid, that's exactly where they go.
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Old Dec 29, 2010 | 10:22 PM
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^ what he said, For drivers lacking the seat time this simple instinct doesnt come so easily. Actually its quite easy to get distracted in race conditions and forget this somtimes for your more experianced driver. Happens all the time.
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Raptord
In normal driving, yes, it's obvious that people look where they want to go. But many, when in emergency situations, look at what they're about to hit/trying to avoid, which then leads to the exact opposite of what they want. Since they look at what they want to avoid, that's exactly where they go.
yes , probably those people even let the steering wheel go and cover they eyes when they see where they going and knowing they cant avoid it anymore ... i guess LOL
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Old Dec 30, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
yes , probably those people even let the steering wheel go and cover they eyes when they see where they going and knowing they cant avoid it anymore ... i guess LOL
it's more like they freeze in place and don't know how to react
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 06:01 AM
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Happened to me when i first drove in snow.lol
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Old Jan 18, 2011 | 06:35 PM
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Learned in snow, so its fairly instinctive for me to look at destination when losing control due to ice or snow. Now i was on my first track day, and had a TERRIBLE time where i would look at the wrong place on a track, or the car ahead, and next thing i'd know i'll be way off-line or following the guy ahead to close.
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