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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:21 PM
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OK Yes, my first car is a evo ix mr, i just learned how to drive stick on it and im doing really good especially learning on AWD, new tranny and exedy twin plate clutch. My question is on hills i have a problem so im on the brake and clutch all the way in, do you guys let the clutch out till its about to stall so it stays steady and then get off brake and hit gas or do u guys use e brake and let off clutch and e brake? whats gunna be easier for me? is there any adjustments to the clutch pedal that i should make to make it easier?
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:37 PM
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Firstly, if you're in search of advice you've got to accept some flaming along with it in this case.
So here goes:

I can't believe you're learning to drive stick, in an FI vehicle, as performance biased as this.

So, anyway, hill starts - leave handbrake engaged. gradually bring up the clutch to biting point (your car will want to move forward), whilst your foot is ready at the gas pedal. Keep a hold on the handbrake, ready to disengage.

In one swift but smooth motion release handbrake+give a little gas (otherwise you'll burn the clutch)+HOLD clutch. As you pick up speed let out the clutch.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 06:43 PM
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handbrake it
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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Seriously? The ebrake is a crutch. You should be able to get off the brake as you let the clutch out, and right as you grab throttle the clutch comes out enough to keep the car from rolling. This isnt EASY i guess, but not that hard either. You should know exactly where the clutch starts to grab.

on level ground try this. put the car in neutral, no brakes or anything. Clutch in and put it in first, then slowly let the clutch out without ever touching the throttle. You should be able to get the car rolling only by feathering the clutch. This helps a lot in knowing where and how much your clutch engages.
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Old Jun 1, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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its not rocket surgery, i feel bad for the IX


so just do as suggested above^
or
all i did was, find a winter beeter of a car for a couple hundred (must be standard and drivetrain doesnt matter really) then just trashed the **** outta it. thats also how i learned to double clutch. easier on your wallet and your IX
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Like 3D said, learn where your engagement point is, it will help. Skip doing the ebrake thing, itll drag out the learning process.

Dont worry, itll all become second nature quicker than you think!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by beb
like 3d said, learn where your engagement point is, it will help. Skip doing the ebrake thing, itll drag out the learning process.

Dont worry, itll all become second nature quicker than you think!
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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yea becuase right now im doubting my descion on buying the stick.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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It might take some time but you will get used to it and get better and better. Once good enough you should be able to move the car on a hill without the ebrake. On steep hills my car will probably move at the most an inch backwards when engaging my clutch.
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Old Jun 2, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by shrty10135
yea becuase right now im doubting my descion on buying the stick.
Dont worry!!!!

Some people will tell you they got it down in a day, others will tell you a week or couple months. Everyone has a different learning curve, so just take it each trip at a time.

And dont listen to people who make you feel like you shouldnt have gotten such a nice/sporty car for your first manny tranny. Its none of their business where your money goes. You WILL get used to it, your apprehensions WILL go away and there will be a day soon where all you do is ENJOY the damn car.
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Old Jun 3, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Bah, hills are easy. Just Heel/Toe the brake and gas, bounce off the rev limiter then quickly let the clutch out fast, but don't dump it.... You'll be fine lol.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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brake, let the clutch out till you feel it engaging then release the brake and hit the gas.

dont use the ebrake people always forget to release it
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by iicemanr6
brake, let the clutch out till you feel it engaging then release the brake and hit the gas.

dont use the ebrake people always forget to release it
In all reality, the eBrake trick works really well on our downtown Seattle hills. You just keep the release button held in the whole time with your thumb, makes it idiot proof.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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i dont doubt it works but its extra work if you ask me that you shouldnt need to do.
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Old Jun 25, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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shrty,

Like you i didnt know stick at one point. i learned on an old pickup then drove a 97 celica 100 thousand miles then got an evo. But to get to the point

I don't believe in "balancing" there is no need. just hold the brake and clutch fully in. when its tim to move up, Slooowly let go of the clutch while your giving a decent amount of gas. not giving enough gas and ur rollin back. dump the clutch too fast and your stallin. Really the only balance needed is to find the "friction" zone of the clutch. The best way to master it is just to let go off the clutch sloooooooly till the car moves forward with no gas. that is your point. know it and then in a hill situation give more gas before that point and smooth through that point.
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