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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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n00b flash questions

I just have a few questions about the flash. I know you get a million........ I was just curious, for those of us who cant afford to buy alot at the same time. At what point would you say the flash is best? After the intake, but before the exhaust? Or is it better to just wait till you have it all then do a flash? Will they flash be thrown off by the summer and winter any more than the ecu? Thanks for the help in advance, just wanna figure out before i start upgradin so i can make sure i have the right path laid out.....
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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I'm sure that this question has been asked and answered before I feel genorus today.
An intake should be acompnaied by a flash but an exhaust can be installed without a flash.
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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The way I like to do it is run the flash on the stock car $199 and then save up to get the inatke and exhuast at the same time and get a update flash 100
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 10:29 PM
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is there a big diffence between the hard pipe and the oem rubber stuff between the turbo and the mafs? I only ask cause i got the buschur cone for christmas and i wanna get a hard pipe. After lookin at ur site it looks like i should b fine with a flash after the intake and not need a reflash after the exhaust?
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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also regarding the flash , there is some discrepancy about whether or not the flash is detectable by a dealer , is it detectable? and how does the P0300 code effect flashing?
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Old Dec 26, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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also regarding the flash , there is some discrepancy about whether or not the flash is detectable by a dealer , is it detectable? and how does the P0300 code effect flashing?
As for the 03 and 04 flash its NOT detectable by the dealer unless you tell them and I offer a free flash back to stock in the event of serious warranty matters

on the 05 you need to have it flashed back to stock before serious warranty claims as they do habe a way to tell

The 0300 code flash would require that you send the ecu back to me for an updated flash
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 05:40 PM
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As for the 03 and 04 flash its NOT detectable by the dealer unless you tell them and I offer a free flash back to stock in the event of serious warranty matters

on the 05 you need to have it flashed back to stock before serious warranty claims as they do habe a way to tell

The 0300 code flash would require that you send the ecu back to me for an updated flash
I love the idea of the flash, but the need to reflash ( i have an 05 ) back to stock makes me hesitant to get it done.

Have you ever thought of making a device that can upload the software AND allow the user to revert back to stock?

The idea is simple enough so I'm assuming the money to manufacture such a device doesn't justify the need.

This is where a standalone seems like a better choice...
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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I love the idea of the flash, but the need to reflash ( i have an 05 ) back to stock makes me hesitant to get it done.

Have you ever thought of making a device that can upload the software AND allow the user to revert back to stock?

The idea is simple enough so I'm assuming the money to manufacture such a device doesn't justify the need.

This is where a standalone seems like a better choice...
It is what it is as far as the '05's go. In most cases it seems likely that the dealers will not be diligent or motivated enough to hook up scan tools and compare CVN numbers but the possibility always exists.

As fas as devising a device to allow end user flashing I am sure it is possible but i do not know that the cost involved would justify the minor inconvieince o having to ship back your ecu to get it flashed back to stock.

Finally as far as a stand alone - its obvious that using a stand slone would totally void your warranty and make your car illegal as far as emissions goes. if your car was mildly modified enough to run on the stock ecu I guess you could always switch the ecu back in the event of service, however, most cars which have stand alones have a lot of mods and need tuning to run well on the stock ecu. There are numerous other draw backs and problems associated with stand alones which I need not bore you with at this time. Suffica to say that the '05 ecus present a minor techical issue which needs to be worked around. The good news is that when we flash them back to stock the original CVN number is restored which is a very good thing.
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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I can understand that...

I just don't like having the downtime. I hate the idea of having to send the ecu back and forth if some kind of warranty needed to be done.

I've been researching your product. Very nice numbers - especially the AFR's!

I'm curious.. Did you guys reverse engineer the code? Or do you use some kind of editor? I'm just interested in that kind of stuff - you don't need to answer if there are some kind of hush-hush stuff... lol..

Thanks... You really make my decision hard!
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Old Dec 29, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by kapolani
I can understand that...

I just don't like having the downtime. I hate the idea of having to send the ecu back and forth if some kind of warranty needed to be done.

I've been researching your product. Very nice numbers - especially the AFR's!

I'm curious.. Did you guys reverse engineer the code? Or do you use some kind of editor? I'm just interested in that kind of stuff - you don't need to answer if there are some kind of hush-hush stuff... lol..

Thanks... You really make my decision hard!
Nothing comes without a price and sadly in this case if you want your Evo to run like it can when its not tuned to run on 87 octane you'll have to deal with some minor down time !
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