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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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BIg ThaNks to Al @ dyno flash N the Shop

Big thanks to Al at Dyno Flash and the shop for doing a excellent job on my evo, spending long hours trying to get my car running properly, Installing all my mods, and tunning my car. Also, I want to give an extra thanks to Jimmy, the owner of the shop, For his great customer service and great pricing. He went out of his way to make sure everything was put in properly, having two professional. As Al and Jimmy inspected my car. It was a joy to watched. I highly recommend the shop to anyone looking to get great service done. I left feeling confident that my car was in good hands with these guys, they really know their stuff. The shop will have my business for life. GOOD JOB GUYS. Any one getting sevice done at the shop will not be disappointed. EVO PROS AT THE SHOP!
Ok, lets get to the dyno now, after Al finish doing his magic with my evo, I wasn't happy with my whp, but the tq was desent. 311 whp and 330 tq with the mods I had on the car. I expected more hp, AL did what he can trying to pull out every bit of power he could with my evo. Before my evo strap on the dyno, I didn't have much confident that my cheap ebay cat back exhaust will perform like those other brand name exhaust. I was right after seeing the dyno result, took my evo with the ebay exhaust for a drive after Al custom tuned the car, the car felt way stronger than before I had the custom tune.
Al, your dynoflash custom tune rocks! Great job! The car is so much smoother now. After I came back to the shop from test driving my evo, I knew that there could be more power made with my evo. Big Al wanted to do a test comparing the ebay exhaust to the br turbo back. Br turbo back exhaust was bolted onto my evo. The first thing I noticed was the fitment on this exhaust system, it was a pefect fit, not like my crappy ebay exhaust with some fitment issue leaking at certain places. I was thinking the br exhaust would be extremely loud, but I was completly wrong. This exhaust sounds awesome and with a nice tone. Right off the get go, My evo fired up with the br exhaust. I knew it was going to make some power just by listening to the sound of the exhaust. This exhaust sounds mean. Thinking 5-10hp at most, All it took was the first dyno run to find out. I was SHOCK due to the performance of this br exhaust. I guess I wasn't the only one, Everyone was throwing alot of WOWs around. Forty plus whp added to my evo with just the br exhaust bolted. Before my car was strap to the dyno with the br exhaust, everyone were throwing numbers around trying to see how much more power my evo would make with the br exhaust added with the mods I already had. Everyone was way off including Al and Jimmy. All the guys at the shop did not expect the car to make that kind of power, Going from 311 whp to 356. Remember nothing changed except for the o2 housing because of fitment issue, Still on the same custom tune I had with the ebay exhaust on before the swap of the br exhaust. I took the car for a test drive with the br exhaust strap on. Wow! A total different beast to drive. The power is completly different with the br exhaust, comparing to the crappy ebay exhaust I had on the car. Losing tons of power up top, while the br had power through out redline. It was so much fun to drive. Last but not least, I want to thank Jimmy and Al for doing the test. I know what my next mod is going to be. Al, you will be hearing from me soon. Hopefully I can set up a date to come up for custom tune, with a new br exhaust system and hangout with you guys at the shop. You guys rock! (-_-)

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 04:46 PM
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Big thanks to Al at Dyno Flash and the shop for doing a excellent job on my evo, spending long hours trying to get my car running properly, installing all my mods, and tunning my car. Also, I want to give an extra thanks to Jimmy, the owner of the shop, for a great customer service and great pricing. He went out of his way to make sure everything was put in properly, having two professional. As Al and Jimmy inspected my car. It was a joy to watched. I highly recommend the shop to anyone looking to get great service done. I left feeling confident that my car was in good hands with these guys, they really know their stuff. The shop will have my business for life. GOOD JOB GUYS. Any one getting sevice done at the shop will not be disappointed. EVO PROS AT THE SHOP!
Ok, lets get to the dyno now, after Al finish doing his magic with my evo, I wasn't happy with my whp, but the tq was desent. 311 whp and 330 tq with the mods I had on the car. I expected more hp, AL did what he can trying to pull out every bit of power he could with my evo. Before my evo strap on the dyno, I didn't have much confident that my cheap ebay cat back exhaust will perfrom like those other brand name exhaust. I was right after seeing the dyno result, took my evo with the ebay exhaust for a drive after Al custom tuned the car, the car felt way stronger than before I had the custom tune.
Al, your dynoflash custom tune rocks! Great job! The car is so much smoother now. After I came back to the shop from test driving my evo, I knew that there could be more power made with my evo. Big Al wanted to do a test comparing the ebay exhaust to the br turbo back. Br turbo back exhaust was bolted onto my evo. The first thing I noticed was the fitment on this exhaust system, it was a pefect fit, not like my crappy ebay exhaust with some fitment issue leaking at certain places. I was thinking the br exhaust would be extremely loud, but I was completly wrong. This exhaust sounds awesome and with a nice tone. Right off the get go, my evo fired up with the br exhaust. I knew it was going to make some power just by listening to the sound of the exhaust. This exhaust sounds mean. Thinking 5-10hp at most, all it took was the first dyno run to find out. I was SHOCK due to the performance of this br exhaust. I guess I wasn't the only one, everyone was throwing alot of WOWs around. Forty plus whp added to my evo with just the br exhaust bolted. Before my car was strap to the dyno with the br exhaust, everyone were throwing numbers around trying to see how much more power my evo would make with the br exhaust added with the mods I already had. Everyone was way off including Al and Jimmy. Everyone at the shop did not expect the car to make that kind of power, going from 311 whp to 356. Remember nothing changed exept for the o2 housing because of fitment issue, Still on the same custom tune I had with the ebay exhaust on before the swap of the br exhaust. I took the car for a test drive with the br exhaust strap on. Wow! A total different beast to drive. The power is completly different with the br exhaust, comparing to the crappy ebay exhaust I had on the car. Losing tons of power up top, while the br had power through out redline. It was so much fun to drive. Last but not least, I want to thank Jimmy and Al for doing the test. I know what my next mod is going to be. Al, you will be hearing from me soon. Hopefully I can set up a date to come up for custom tune, with a new br exhaust system and hangout with you guys at the shop. You guys rock! (-_-)
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Awsome to hear man. My cousin martin lives in Norwalk CT so next time I visit him Im gunna stop by the shop and check it out.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Congrats on a job well done sir.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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TTP Engineering - When was the last time you posted something on the forum simply to share knowledge with the community. The majority of your posts are an attempt to sell something. And the ones that are not are where you talk about your 10 second stock turbo run without divulging any information. I can understand that you think you have some secret recipe that you don't want to share. But don't discourage AL from sharing his findings.

I in no way support everything that Al says and does, but at least he is trying to better the community.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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TTP Engineering - When was the last time you posted something on the forum simply to share knowledge with the community. The majority of your posts are an attempt to sell something. And the ones that are not are where you talk about your 10 second stock turbo run without divulging any information. I can understand that you think you have some secret recipe that you don't want to share. But don't discourage AL from sharing his findings.

I in no way support everything that Al says and does, but at least he is trying to better the community.
I find it quite the opposite. I find sharing misinfo with subliminal sales tactics to push certain lines of products while defaming China made products using prejudice very wrong.

Somehow along the way a proof source of WHY the defamatory comment is wrong has to be thrown out there. Such an example was of the performance we accomplished using the exhaust product Al continues to bash.

I don't agree with Al's marketing tactic to belittle a product not based on performance, but on the products origin while using inconclusive and unlevel testing methods.

That is our opinion on the subject. All chest beating aside.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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good to hear your happy with your tune same here i'm very happy with my tune. AL is the man!
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I find it quite the opposite. I find sharing misinfo with subliminal sales tactics to push certain lines of products while defaming China made products using prejudice very wrong.

Somehow along the way a proof source of WHY the defamatory comment is wrong has to be thrown out there. Such an example was of the performance we accomplished using the exhaust product Al continues to bash.

I don't agree with Al's marketing tactic to belittle a product not based on performance, but on the products origin while using inconclusive and unlevel testing methods.

That is our opinion on the subject. All chest beating aside.

I think you are confused

I believe in Buschur exhuasts and I believe they are the best. When you have conviction in something, one is willing to make effort to share his conviction.

I am not making these claims as some marketing tactic - I am doing it becuase I want my customers to have the best results and fast cars which make a lot of power.

I am a tuner - I can tune any parts that come along and get paid the same.

In this case, it was the customer chose his exhuast selection - including the XS auto chrome cat back. We did a A - B test on HIS EXHUAST and you can read form his reaction the Buschur unit was not only better sounding but also it made a LOT more power - the was nothing "subliminal" about the results.

There was nothing "wrong" about the customer's first hand impressions and testing results - his opinion is stated clearly above based upon his own experience in driving his car with both exhuasts.

I wanted to show MY CUSTOMER where the missing power was and we as a shop were eilling to take the time to R & R his echuast to see how much power was in the exhuast.

As the customer stated - even Jimmy and myself were shocked just how much power was made from just an exhuast swap.

I find it bizzare that anyone would claim that I am defaming EBAY PRODUCTS which are produced often as direct copies of other existing products and made in the cheapest possible manner. The people which makes the EBAY stuff - XS Auto Chrome has made direct copies of other companies products - like the Turbo XS fmic kit for Subarus and the AMS fmic for evos.

XS Auto chrome does not do testing of its exhausts. They do not report on their discoveries here and they certainly dont pay a vendor fee or support this community in any manner.

I am not prejudiced against the Chinese.

I am a bit troubled at the leadership in the USA which allows rampant stealing of intellectual property and a ever expanding trade deficit which results in more and more jobs lost to US workers.

I am an avid reader of the New York Times and I have read many stories of DVD movies being reproduced on the China black market and soft ware and other intellectual property as well.

When I was a young boy, Americans enjoyed a very amazing lifestyle and just about anyone who wanted could go and get a college education.

Times are changing quickly and the future is not so bright for the middle class in the USA today.

Some say that this is the enevitable result of globalization. I see the result when I visit Wal Mart and find tons of cheap junk and can't find any real quality items.

Enitre industries in our country have been displaced and eliminated 100%. I do not think that everyone has to accept that the only solution is to buy the cheapest goods you can get your hands on regardless of who makes them.

There is no shame in supporting goods.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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There is no shame at capitalizing on exchange rates and cost of goods overseas if the quality is good and products work.

With the money you save you can reinvest into the NYSE or another USA based investment to support our economy.
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 07:40 PM
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"The Shop" is and will be my only shop I go to glad you enjoyed your visit and got to see how helpful Jimmy is and what great service he provides!
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
There is no shame at capitalizing on exchange rates and cost of goods overseas if the quality is good and products work.

With the money you save you can reinvest into the NYSE or another USA based investment to support our economy.
The problem of course is that the quality is not as good and the products do not work as good


Look at me with a staright face and tell me that the junk they sell in Wal Mart is "just as good" as what they used to sell in the local market back in the day

Bigger does not equal better
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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
There is no shame at capitalizing on exchange rates and cost of goods overseas if the quality is good and products work.

With the money you save you can reinvest into the NYSE or another USA based investment to support our economy.

Some how I doubt that the discount offered to EvoM consumers on foreign goods as a result of the dollar being over valued is making its way back into domestic stock markets. Most likely board members are using these savings to buy more foreign parts for their cars.

Then again this has nothing to do with the quality of buschur products VS SS Auto Chrome products

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
There is no shame at capitalizing on exchange rates and cost of goods overseas if the quality is good and products work.

With the money you save you can reinvest into the NYSE or another USA based investment to support our economy.

I do believe there is shame in some practices

For example XO2racning.com a competitor of SS Auto Chrome out of CA which has a full page as in the current Turbo Magazine

Here we have a copied Tial 44 mm wastetgate for $69.00 - is this POS really "as good" as a $400 genuine Tial 44 ? No. Is it fair that these guys baasically copied the design and are trying to sell this without some disclaimer saying its a cheaply made copy ? Not fair.


http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100037


Here is there $100 copy of a Tial 46

http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100036

Here is their direct copy of a HKS 50 mm wastegate - looks idential - only the quality sucks

http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100035



http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100018

HKS SSQ BOV

http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100021

and the Forge BOV

http://www.xo2racing.com/cart/produc...ucts_id=100022


Basically what they do is take goods that top end performance companies have innovated through R & D and effort and they buy one - ship to to China where they mass produce a facsimilie of the real item at a fraction of the cost.

Of course the quality and the exceution is no where near the quality of the originakl item - and the materials used are the cheapest junk they can finsd in order to produce these items at the lowest possible price.


You tell me there is no shame for these actions?

I disagree and in fact I say HUGE SHAME

To me it is discusting that Turbo Magazine would even accept an ad from these guys

Shame on everyone who prostitutes themselves to sell immitation, low quality chinese performance parts

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by DynoFlash
There is no shame in supporting goods.
I love reading this line on a forum that is all about a non-American product. Cracks me up.

I agree, buy American products when it makes sense... When the product is well designed, true quality and cost effective. But, don't sit here and tell people to buy American products when you're not driving a Ford. It just doesn't work like that. I'm personally not going to buy an American product if it's $1,000 and a foreign product that is $500 works just as well. You're saying I should spend $500 more just to support an American business? No. The American business needs to get their head out of their *** and take a lesson in what this country is based upon; Capitalism.

A product that is just as good at a lower price is going to always win. Market competition makes the economy good. Not to mention makes people come up with innovative and new ways to produce the same quality product for cheaper so they can stay in business.

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Old Feb 19, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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I am a bit troubled at the leadership in the USA which allows rampant stealing of intellectual property and a ever expanding trade deficit which results in more and more jobs lost to US workers.
So would you like us to invade china tomorrow? That was the most idiotic statement I have ever heard anyone make, its not that america is not trying to protect our citizens property and intellectual rights, its that china's leaders refuse to listen to us. So short of an invasion and forceful shutting down of these companys I see no way of stopping it. Not to mention that if you have a patent on a 3 inch exhaust, it still dosent mean **** in china.
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