Hey, I was wondering if you could give me an idea of where my car would be at with a custom road/dyno tune on 93 octane with the following.

JIC Exhaust Manifold (Worth it?)
HKS Downpipe
Random Tech 3" High Flow Cat
HKS Super Dragger Catback
Unorthodox 2.5" Pipe Kit
K&N Panel Filter

Thanks

 

If you ad a boost controller of some sort you could expect about 310 whp and 310 - 315 ft lbs on 93 octane

The header adds some low end trq but IMHO is not worth the cost

 

How much hp without boost controller?

 

I would scratch the manifold off your list and get new cams and cam gears. Otherwise your setup is what i'm working towards.

 

Its hard to say as many cars will hold the 20 psi to red line with that set up - but some wont - so thats why we recomend a MBC or EBC to be consistant

I think you could make the same whp without but if your boost is only at 18 or 19 you wont

 

Ok. Is it safe to assume that the reflash would basically be the same if he were to add an mbc since most Evo's with a full exhaust will see 20psi or so or would it be a completely different program for with/without mbc/ebc? If they are the same then the parts could be put on and if it only boosts to 18 then an mbc could be added to optimize the power of the reflash.

 

Basically - YES - but I always like to be in CONTROL of da boost ! mbc or ebc is the best solution

 

Many thanks to fury656 for opening a thread like this....

I was going to do basically the same thing. Hope you don't mind if I ask my question here; it's similar.

Hey Al...

Here is the list of mods I plan for:

Exhaust - HKS DP, UR cat, HKS HiPower 30th
It's not going to make the most power, but I want to keep it on the quiet side.

Intake - HKS RS, AEM, K&N Typhon, or Burschur pipe and filter. Haven't decided.
HKS seems to be top shelf, but the others seem so similar for less money.
I can use the $100 saved for somethig else.

Cams - HKS 264/264
Not the baddest, but again I want to keep it sane, and I get to keep my stock springs, etc.

Boost Control - for EBC, I like the HKS EVC V or the Greddy E01.
I know you have mentoned the profec is a pain, but how is the E01 vs. the EVC ??? Again another
$100 in my pocket if it is a wash as far as operation goes.
And I can always go the MBC route to save even more.

ECU Flash - That's you. Probably a custom tune if you have another dynoday soon.

Here are my questions -

1. Do you have a tune in the can that will support the mods above ?? Exhaust, Intake, Cams, BC.

The reason I ask is because we will be installing parts here, then it is a 2hr. drive to Pruven to get a proper tune.
It seems that it might be smart to have the ECU mail flashed first so I can make the drive without sweatin it.

2. With the 264 cams, is there enough headroom left in the pump and injectors, or should I consider upgrades ???
Ninos got the pump cheap, probably has the injectors too.

BTW, you need to think about another dynoday at Pruven.
With the DSM/Mitsu day at Etown on 4/24, it would be great to get prepared the weekend before.
That's the target I have in mind.

Again, great to have you back on the board...
See you in the spring.

Mike and Dad

 

We have a tune that will even be good enough to just drive and never get tuned ! When you are ready I will send you the through the mail flash that you can use till you get to the dyno - - also since you have been to so many of our events I will give you the same dyno day discount any day you want to come to Pruven

I will be posting the dyno sheet from the guy with just exhuast, stock intake and ebc w/ 335 to the wheels - that is the set up I recomend (almost forgot the pump and injectors) Its a good set up with the stock intake and bov

 

Al, have you ever done a reflash with the AVO exhaust?

 

Yes - smlar to Perrin or HKS in flow

 

so al I have been hearing stories that the hks rs suction kit is no good, and that the stock air box is way better. Is this true. Should I get rid of the hks unit and swap my stock in back in. Could u give me a estimate of how much power u think u could get me with those parts: hks ti. cat back exhaust, test pipe. hks suction kit, and a greddy bov. I live in cali so I got 91 octane **** gas. By the way I spoke to a few people from so cal evo and they said your reflash is badass, best mod they ever did.

 

IMHO - you can get the same whp with either the stock intake or the HKS on the STOCK turbo

I just did a car with the HKS set up and got an amazing dyno sheet - its posted here

With that said - no matter which intake you choose - its important to tune to compensate or you will be not only wasting your money but also risking engine damage from a too lean condition which most intakes cause by altering the MAF signal calibration

Aftermarket intakes look better and sound better but honestly dont show any sign gains on our dyno - WHEN you tune for it

 

Hi Al,

This is the guy that bought the UR High Flow Cat from you and ecu reflash. Man.....I just drove it hard tonight, it's amazing man, it pulled up so quick all the way to red line. Thanks for a very nice work, my car seems like it just wanna fly. I will have some more mods on my car later and thinking to drive up to you for a dyno. Would it be ok if I put more mods on my car and drive it before doing the ecu upgrade? Again, thanks for an awesome reflash.

 

thanks for the help. should i get a reflash now. or wait until i get a couple other mods like a fuel pump and a boost controller, and a fuel controller. Or should i do sumthing else? When will u be in california again the irvine area?