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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Question 3 logs... got any suggestions ?

will you guys take a look at these 3 logs and tell me what you think.... i have pulled some timing in the areas with higher knock but havent gotten the chance to log afterwards yet... i pulled 1 to 2 degrees in the problem areas... any tips or areas of interest you can point out i would be greatly appreciated

mods are in my sig... 22 psi on 93 octane
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:05 PM
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5 speed?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Looking at the IPW it appears that maybe you can add fuel instead of pulling timing (which is done automatically anyhow - joke).

If you have a 5speed your taking 2.3 seconds to get 4K to 6Krpm in 3rd and to get the car to run 11.81 again you need to be at about 2.1 seconds.

But without a WB, all you can do is throw some gas at it and see if this helps

Just my perspective
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Looking at the IPW it appears that maybe you can add fuel instead of pulling timing (which is done automatically anyhow - joke).

If you have a 5speed your taking 2.3 seconds to get 4K to 6Krpm in 3rd and to get the car to run 11.81 again you need to be at about 2.1 seconds.

But without a WB, all you can do is throw some gas at it and see if this helps

Just my perspective
Sorry for the OT.

But I've seen you post a couple of times mentioning the time it takes to get from 4k to 6k. Have you done testing that can correlate these proposed times to some general power output of these vehicles?
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by C6C6CH3vo
Looking at the IPW it appears that maybe you can add fuel instead of pulling timing (which is done automatically anyhow - joke).

If you have a 5speed your taking 2.3 seconds to get 4K to 6Krpm in 3rd and to get the car to run 11.81 again you need to be at about 2.1 seconds.

But without a WB, all you can do is throw some gas at it and see if this helps

Just my perspective
i have a wideband... my a/f's are dead on 11.0 in 4th, in 3d a little squirrely, jumping from 10.8 to 11.3

and sorry, its a 5 speed
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Have you done testing that can correlate these proposed times to some general power output of these vehicles?
No

But I can indeed generally tell the differences from the time and RPM. Iv'e seen a 20G-9 with alky hit 2.1, stock IX's about 2.6, bolt-on 03's are like 2.8.

You got to make sure the 4000 rpm was rolled into or else time will be 0.1 slow. Also a factor is wheel/tire size and 5 or 6 sp (big one)

Bottom line, it's a general, but fun way to basically see how fast ones car winds up
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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C6,

Would'nt be a 5500-7000 be more realistic since rpms never go below 5500 during 3rd and 4th gears in the 1/4?

Sorry for the OT.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:41 AM
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i believe he is referring for logging purposes.... my 11.81 was with race gas and 26psi boost....

any more suggestions ? or id say any at this point
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Well since no one else reviewed recently your stuck with me again

From the first 3rd gear pull it looks like the 8* was too much, but then could be anything

On the next 3rd pull the car handled the 8* well and didnt start reporting knock until after peak. But the TPS here was in mid 90's and the airflow was about 100hz lower. Either you didn't floor it or have cable issues. I usually just stomp on the throttle

Nonetheless, I don't know if it's common with these IX monsters but after 6500 RPM your IPW are maxing out

Why are the fuel trims like that?
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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i have no idea why the fuel trims are that way... im on a base flash from a vendor and im trying to tweak it to make it better... i just adjusted the mivec today to run a map someone else is running with similar mods to me and i definitely have some better results... my boost peaks earlier and my torque curve is a bit longer...

i have noticed when i make pulls occasionally one will be way different then the others. my car will pull timing on one, the same gear 2 seconds later i can do another pull and i get 1 to 2 knock counts and no timing is pulled... i made a few fuel adjustments today as well as minor timing adjustments. i can send you guys my rom if you are interested in looking at it... i will post my last runs this morning... my last one, my tps shows me not at 100 percent, not sure why that is... i will do more logs tomorrow
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 05:59 PM
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Definately less knock, but did the car feel a slight loss of torque?

Originally Posted by bigric09
i... i just adjusted the mivec today to run a map someone else is running with similar mods to me and i definitely have some better results... my boost peaks earlier and my torque curve is a bit longer...
Just make sure you got a backup just in case

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ii have noticed when i make pulls occasionally one will be way different then the others. my car will pull timing on one, the same gear 2 seconds later i can do another pull and i get 1 to 2 knock counts and no timing is pulled...
Slave a few gal of racing gas in there on empty without any tuning as a control to see if the knock is genuine

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i made a few fuel adjustments today as well as minor timing adjustments. i can send you guys my rom if you are interested in looking at it... i will post my last runs this morning...
Sure, if you can, because I'm not at work without framework, pop up the relevant map, Alt - PrtSc and paste on paint to send, or zip and attach here. If it's too much trouble, not to worry

Looks like you finally floored it on last log

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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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here is the rom info i hope lol
Attached Thumbnails 3 logs... got any suggestions ?-rom.jpg  
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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That last log pretty much shows you got it dialed in, you think you can get one more * from 6000 up to redline?
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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Man, your timing advance on 93 octane is great .

F 91 octane.. :|
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Man, your timing advance on 93 octane is great .

F 91 octane.. :|
???
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