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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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adding 10% FUEL

i've searched but couldn't find any threads on how to add fuel using ecuflash. anyone know how? please tell me how???
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Old May 24, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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lower the #s displayed in the fuel maps. if you raise them you will be leaning it out. make small adjustments and use a wideband to confirm and also monitor your knock using a logger like mitsulogger or evoscan. I suggest logworks if you have an lc1 or lm1

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Old May 24, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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oh, ok thanks. would 12.9 be too low? on 1000 rpms through 50% load?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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I would think you would be in closed loop in that range. I believe the fuel map only adjusts for open loop as I understand. If you are running 12.9:1 in closed loop, then it's WAY too rich. You should be at stoich, 14.7:1.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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i suggest you do a lot more reading before doing anything.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mplspilot
i suggest you do a lot more reading before doing anything.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
I would think you would be in closed loop in that range. I believe the fuel map only adjusts for open loop as I understand. If you are running 12.9:1 in closed loop, then it's WAY too rich. You should be at stoich, 14.7:1.
i meant 12.9 in the fuel map in ecuflash. my car is idling lean, keeps throwing the po171 code. so i'm just trying to make it idle a little richer so that it doesn't pull that code. with the 272's i have, it was throwing that code the very day i put cams in. i got it to idle very nice with about 16 inHg but still trying to figure out how to richen it up so that code goes away.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Do you have a wideband? If not, put the laptop down, smack yourself a few times, put your stock map back on (you did save that, right?) and don't touch ECUFlash until you have a wideband and a logger.

Who did your tuning?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
Do you have a wideband? If not, put the laptop down, smack yourself a few times, put your stock map back on (you did save that, right?) and don't touch ECUFlash until you have a wideband and a logger.

Who did your tuning?
no, i do not have a wideband. there are many ways to tune a car and a wideband is not the only way. i just wanted to know how to richen up the air/fuel mixture in ecuflash to get rid of that po171 code. i know what i am doing but just need some info on ecuflash's fuel map and how it works(meaning which way to richen, increase or decrease numbers.) i am not tuning so i do not need a wideband. i am simply adding more fuel, maybe 10%, like everyone else who also have cams in their car for the first time. i do not need dumb remarks and i am not that dumb to not save the stock map. thanks.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Well, lowering the numbers richens the mixture, but it sounds to me that you have a scaling problem, not an A:F problem. Did you upgrade your injectors along with the cams?
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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It is perfectly reasonable to tune the idle with a narrowband.

You can look at your O2 feedback trim and see if it has hit a limit that triggers the CEL.

13.2 would give you approx 10% increase and is safe to try.
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Old May 24, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TouringBubble
Well, lowering the numbers richens the mixture, but it sounds to me that you have a scaling problem, not an A:F problem. Did you upgrade your injectors along with the cams?
yes, i did put in injectors too. i have rc fuel injectors. 750cc
this is what i scaled it at. seems about right to me for these injectors.
LATENCY VOLTAGE
4.96 3.312
7.03 2.184
9.38 1.512
11.72 1.032
14.06 0.696
16.41 0.432
18.68 0.264

INJECTOR SCALING
750cc
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jcsbanks
It is perfectly reasonable to tune the idle with a narrowband.

You can look at your O2 feedback trim and see if it has hit a limit that triggers the CEL.

13.2 would give you approx 10% increase and is safe to try.
that is exactly what i have been doing this whole time. except i don't have a narrowband gauge, would be a little better but i am just doing this by looking at the o2 feedback trims and the front o2 sensor voltage. trying to keep that voltage as close to .5 as i can, well at least trying to not make it just too high or too low which i got to a certain point then stopped
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Dont forget about the Idle air screw on the Throttle body....
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Old May 24, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by RedLanEVO
no, i do not have a wideband. there are many ways to tune a car and a wideband is not the only way.

IMO you are incorrect. I would suggest putting down the laptop before you burn a hole in your pistons...

good luck (your going to need it without having the proper tools)
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